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Re: Quoting W3C Specs on WPD

From: Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:50:56 -0500
Message-ID: <CAPwaZpWfq-M-YU+JgHXzFPWyYaD78T7CnhqyTngK5JzHwTLqzw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>
Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>
Thanks for following up on this!

First, we should document this on the
http://webplatform.org/docs/WPD:External_Attribution page. Secondly, do I
understand correctly that the proposal is for every non-trivial quotation
to include that citation text immediately below it? If so, that's different
than what we do for other sources.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> wrote:

> Sounds mostly pretty reasonable to me. A few queries:
>
> 1. "Short quotations from any source" - as in, any W3C spec, or talking
> more generally?
>
> 2. I think something specific needs to be added in to urge the reader to
> think carefully about what stuff from W3C specs they do quote. I can
> understand people wanting to quote short bits of explanation of examples to
> add to a discussion, but not liberally republishing large sections. As you
> say, these documents aren't really meant for web developers. Should we
> follow that up with a comment along the lines of "inappropriate or
> excessive quotations will be removed", or is that too aggressive?
>
> Chris
>
> On 27 Nov 2012, at 16:23, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks-
> >
> > There have been a few requests to quote W3C specifications on WPD, in
> light of W3C's document license policy [1].
> >
> > We've had some discussions about this in the W3C team, and we're agreed
> that this is okay, and are working on articulating this clearly.
> >
> > Before we go much further internally, I wanted to show you where we are,
> and get feedback to go forward.
> >
> > How does something like this strike you, as a FAQ item?
> >
> > [[
> > "Can I use text from W3C Specifications on WebPlatform.org"
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > W3C Recommendations are licensed under the
> > [http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231
> > W3C Document License], which permits reproduction in full with
> attribution.
> >
> > Short quotations from any source may be made as fair use. In addition,
> > W3C grants permission to include longer direct quotations from W3C
> > specifications, under the W3C Document License.
> >
> > Images and diagrams from specifications may also be used on the
> documentation site, with proper attribution.
> >
> > To provide attribution, simply add a link to the quoted section of the
> specification along with your copied quote, like so:
> >
> > ((Add example here))
> >
> > Web Platform Docs has a [[future_url| link to the W3C copyright
> notice]], which applies site-wide, so there is no need to include
> additional copyright information.
> > ]]
> >
> > Keep in mind that under CC-BY, people will be copying and reusing the
> content from WPD elsewhere, so whatever solution we come up with needs to
> take that into account.
> >
> > Thoughts? Would this suffice? Do you have any other suggestions or
> things we missed?
> >
> > (On a meta note, I think we need to be careful about quoting from specs,
> because they aren't really meant for web developers, but for software
> implementers.)
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231
> >
> > Regards-
> > -Doug
> >
>
>
>
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