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Re: Proposal for updating links on webplatform.org

From: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:21:43 +0000
Cc: Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org
Message-Id: <4F44DB54-263E-4088-ABFA-8AB4381A71DE@opera.com>
To: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
Yup, there is a link to the stewards page in the About page.

I agree that it itself shouldn't be a main nav item.

Chris Mills
Opera Software, dev.opera.com
W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)

On 11 Dec 2012, at 20:48, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote:

> Can we put a short section and a link to the Stewards page from here?
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> That way, Stewards does not have to be in the global nav as well as at the
> bottom of every page.
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> Julee
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:08 AM
> To: Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>
> Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Proposal for updating links on webplatform.org
> Resent-From: <public-webplatform@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:08 AM
> 
>> Thanks Janet!
>> 
>> So, final text is at http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:About
>> 
>> Can we link that from the main page of webplatform.org? Or do we need to
>> put it somewhere more special?
>> 
>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 16:54, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks good. Just one nit:
>>> 
>>> Change "About a year ago" to "In late 2011".
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/12 9:03 AM, Chris Mills wrote:
>>>> I've had a go at drafting some text for the proposed "About" page. Is
>>>> the kind of thing we want?
>>>> 
>>>> What is Webplatform.org?
>>>> 
>>>> Webplatform.org is a community-driven documentation site mainly
>>>> focused on client-side web technologies. It was founded by several
>>>> stewards, including Opera, Mozilla, Google, the W3C, Microsoft, Adobe,
>>>> HP, Nokia and Facebook, with the aim of creating a definitive resource
>>>> for web developers and designers to find all the information they need
>>>> to do their job. The main part of the site is a wiki containing
>>>> tutorials, concept articles and reference docs, but we also have a Q&A
>>>> section, blog, and IRC chat, and we are aiming to expand out
>>>> capabilities in the future to include live code examples, resources for
>>>> educators, and more.
>>>> 
>>>> How the site was created
>>>> 
>>>> About a year ago, a small group ­ including people of W3C, Opera,
>>>> Microsoft, Mozilla, Google and others ­ started talking about a new
>>>> documentation project for information covering open web standards. Yes,
>>>> there are lots of documentation sites already available, but some of
>>>> them are low quality, out-of-date, or both. Some have great information
>>>> about some subjects, but not others. And generally it takes web
>>>> developers a lot of time to find all the information they want. It
>>>> would be great for all the information providers to get together and
>>>> produce one authoritative resource to tell web designers and developers
>>>> all the information they need to know to do their job.
>>>> 
>>>> The idea was very warmly received by all parties involved, and so we
>>>> all started solving problems together, working out an infrastructure
>>>> for the project that would scale well and handle lots of different
>>>> contributors, working out marketing and business plans, and putting
>>>> together a large list of content from different resources ­ such as
>>>> HTML5 rocks, MSDN, MDN and Operašs web standards curriculum ­ that
>>>> would act as seed content to get the project started.
>>>> 
>>>> Webplatform.org philosophy
>>>> 
>>>> Ideally, we want this to be an ever-evolving project controlled and
>>>> written by the community, rather than a bunch of big name vendors
>>>> telling everyone what to do. The stewards are just there to provide
>>>> structure and funding. We want everyone involved in the web community
>>>> to feel they have to right to contribute new material and improve
>>>> existing articles. It's your web, documented your way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 09:49, Chris Mills
>>>> <cmills@opera.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Dec 2012, at 12:28, Jonathan Garbee
>>>>> <jonathan@garbee.me>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, there should be an "about" page [1] since that issue has been
>>>>>> sitting for quite a while.  That should be the "philosophy" if there
>>>>>> is to be a page for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> So, adding an "About/philosophy" page to the site, and changing one
>>>>> of the links in the main navigation to "About" - yup, I think this is
>>>>> definitely a good idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am happy to draft this. What do we need on there?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. More detail about what webplatform is
>>>>> 2. Why the site was created
>>>>> 3. Philosophy behind it
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anything else?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The more link also needs to go [2] since it is a UX nightmare. There
>>>>>> is no reason to have multiple links go to the same area in the same
>>>>>> nav menu with different names. Should it ever have a different name
>>>>>> in any navigation item?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry - I read the bug, but I don't know what other page you are
>>>>> suggesting adding here - it is as if a part of the explanation on the
>>>>> bug is missing? Can you elaborate on this second point?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also don't think we need a link to the stewards in the main
>>>>>> navigation. There is a block of text lower down in the page going to
>>>>>> the stewards page and then the footer logos on every page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I agree really - I was just throwing it out there as another
>>>>> idea. But your reaction confirms it in my mind as a bad idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19410
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [2] 
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19557
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Janet Swisher
>>> Mozilla Developer Network
>>> Technical Writer/Community Steward
>> 
>> 
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