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Re: Feedback sought on new WPD icon set

From: Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:42:55 +0100
Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org
Message-Id: <F10B8072-8103-41DF-879B-393F45523C6D@desbenoit.net>
To: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>
Copy/Paste from the bug tracker. 

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Thanks for the comments! 

I don't care if I need to restart everything from scratch as long as we can find an overall agreement for the line to follow. 

From what I read here and in the mailing list thread, there are two different topics in those discussions about the pictograms on the first hand and the style of the icons on the second hand. 

* For the style, we nearly all agree that WPD needs icons that are consistent with webplatform identity. IMO, it is a key point in order that webplatform does not look like a patchwork website. 

* For the pictograms in the icons, I see three possibilities from the discussion: 
1. Redraw or find a consistent pictogram for each concept/language, 
2. Use the language logo if it exists and 1. for the others,
3. Use the HTML5 logo guide for languages and 1. for the others. 

In my humble opinion, icons are here to shorten the navigation process so we should focus on their pictogram consistency for our users so perhaps starting from the language logos is a great idea. But this means we can make small modifications to fit in the WPD style. I second Taylor about HTML5 icons: using those symbols puts WPD in a time lapse and it should remain timeless. 




Le 3 déc. 2012 à 18:46, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> a écrit :

> I don't think we should use the W3 logos as a way to reinforce a relationship.  Stewards shouldn't get that kind of attention within the docs plus they don't fit with our style too well.  A lot of effort is being made by a community member to make custom logos that fit our design; I think that should take precedent over the ease of just using W3's logos.
> 
> -Garbee
> 
> On 12/3/2012 12:36 PM, Chris Mills wrote:
>>  While I agree that we should use establish conventions wherever possible, do these logs really fit what we want? There is a semantics logo that could be used for Markup, yes. There is a CSS3 logo that could be used for CSS. But there isn't exactly one that suits JavaScript, or SVG, or General web concepts.
>> 
>> Chris Mills
>> Open standards evangelist and dev.opera.com editor, Opera Software
>> Co-chair, web education community group, W3C
>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://my.opera.com/chrismills/blog/2012/07/12/practical-css3-my-book-is-finally-published)
>> 
>> * Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
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>> 
>> On 3 Dec 2012, at 17:11, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with Peter in that we should be using the W3C HTML logos (and other appropriate standards bodies’ logos) whenever possible. [1] We want to reinforce our relationships with standards bodies as much as possible and give readers familiar navigational aids, rather than asking them to learn new ones, even if they are wonderfully designed.
>>>  I’ve added a comment to the bug.
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Eliot
>>>  [1] http://www.w3.org/html/logo/#downloads
>>>  From: Taylor Costello [mailto:nottaylorcostello@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 9:03 AM
>>> To: Peter Lubbers
>>> Cc: Chris Mills; seba@google.com; public-webplatform@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: Feedback sought on new WPD icon set
>>>  I like the icons so far, I think they would be better with colors off the logo (or other colors on the wiki). Orange and blue are nice and contrast well together but I'm not really sure how well they would go with the style of the overall site. You have an eye for color though. I also think it would be nice if the icons were different colors (that you think suited the category), it would be fun to design templates around those colors and make them change between categories so the wiki was more interesting to look at (such as CSS being orange, and making it so the templates will switch to orange if the topic is set to CSS or something). You could do this with the switch function with the ParserFunctions extension.
>>>  On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Peter Lubbers <peterlubbers@google.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, and nice work Sebastien.
>>> Just curious, have you considered using some of the feature elements defined on the HTML5 logo page (http://www.w3.org/html/logo/)? For example, the markup, CSS, Graphics, subcategories etc. Some of those are already fairly well established.
>>> --Peter
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> As part of the work we are doing to improve the UX/styling of the landing pages, Sebastien has been working on creating some new icons. He has posted a set of 6 to the following bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19386. Can you have a look (it's the newest attachment of the ones on there), and give him some feedback?
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> Chris Mills
>>> Open standards evangelist and dev.opera.com editor, Opera Software
>>> Co-chair, web education community group, W3C
>>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://my.opera.com/chrismills/blog/2012/07/12/practical-css3-my-book-is-finally-published)
>>> 
>>> * Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
>>> * Learn about the latest open standards technologies and techniques:http://dev.opera.com
>>> * Contribute to web education: http://www.w3.org/community/webed/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
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