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Re: Plan for getting core WPD content sorted out

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:53:28 +0200
Message-ID: <CABc02_JhrkoOVWzT_6Bik_=m=okU-UBcDMGL3r_6ajaAJsRDGQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
I also think the core stuff should be finalized first. I think it should
the top priority. That is what everyone (no exception) uses - and it is a
huge mess.

I am working on all of the DOM related reference pages for a while.
I am not nearly finished, but I think I am making some good progress.
However, I am not really adding content - I am really reorganizing it
(taking page summaries from manual MSDN listings and removing those
listings afterward, modernizing the MSDN examples, cleaning up weird 'out'
MSDN parameters, moving non semantic standards information to the standards
table and so on).
I sometimes add some usage information and compatibility information (from
caniuse, MDN and such), or write my own summary, but in the majority of
cases, this does not really happen.

I am also scared of moving pages, because of the Semantic Wiki cross
reference issues that it may cause (we really need a bot for fixing all of
the links after a move, especially since we have agreed upon a URL system),
so the old URL system is still very much in place (dom/objects/bla,
dom/methods/bla...).

One idea that I had in mind, is that the standards table should come from a
list, with an option to either add to the list (like the current type
system), or an option to add a custom one only to the page itself.
The problem (sort of) is that standards have lots of editions, especially
working draft ones. So the links to them should be dynamic or flexible
somehow, with a automatic completion to the current version.
(I admit I am sinning by always linking to the latest version, which can
always change when it is a working draft (WHATWG HTML, W3C HTML5, DOM Level
3 Events, DOM Level 4, WHATWG DOM).)

☆*PhistucK*



On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was just thinking about this. I've seen some discussion going back and
> forth about adding documentation to WPD for stuff like Audio API and CSS
> regions. That's great, but surely we should concentrate more for a bit now
> on getting some of the existing HTML/CSS/JavaScript core stuff sorted out?
> Getting that core stuff in place is surely a higher priority than
> documenting nascent standards features that currently have limited browser
> support. I am happy to work with Julee and the others to formulate a plan
> for this.
>
> After I've got the high level page structures/IA/UX in a bit more working
> order over the next couple of weeks, I am happy to start contributing to
> the low level content myself.
>
> I'd say a general plan would be:
>
> * Split the content into areas of responsibility, e.g. CSS learning
> articles (concepts plus tutorials), CSS property references, CSS selector
> references, HTML learning articles, HTML element references, etc.
> * Assign those areas to individuals who can take responsibility for their
> tending
> * Get people working on those areas over the next couple of months. I'd
> say each domain area needs an editor and a proof reader, possibly a demo
> writer as well, as when Lea gets Dabblet in place, we'll need to install
> live demos on all the articles.
>
> Shall we discuss this at the general meeting on Monday?
>
> Chris Mills
> Open standards evangelist and dev.opera.com editor, Opera Software
> Co-chair, web education community group, W3C
> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (
> http://my.opera.com/chrismills/blog/2012/07/12/practical-css3-my-book-is-finally-published
> )
>
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>
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