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Re: Use Case: Marking to Clothing

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:35:47 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhKDEjd4bt+cB03f3Yct4RzCtQo0eW3LPyiHxsATzu0PXw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Cc: Web Payments <public-webpayments@w3.org>
On 20 September 2014 16:30, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On 21 Sep 2014, at 12:15 am, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> On 20 September 2014 16:00, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> It's very close to contour based analysis of individuals...
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>> Why clothing, not people?
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> Marking of people is already implemented.
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> I think clothing is something that is a little less 'geeky'
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>> Technically, what's the difference?
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>> Wouldn't targeting a wifi MAC address (or bluetooth unique device Id, not
>> sure if it's a MAC address) be similar?
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>> Clothing would infer a person needs to take a particular position inorder
>> for it to be readable.
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>> How does it support persona, over identity (meaning pseudo-anonmity)...?
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>> Wouldn't qrcodes on business cards be low-hanging fruit?
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> There are other use cases, but in this case a person would normally be the
> owner of the garment.
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> Most industries, especially luxury good, have issues with counterfeiting.
>   Watches, sunglasses, Clothing, etc.
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> Having some sort of discoverable, unique uri on these things that certify
> the object is a desirable capability. (Ideally via a mobile phone - ie: nfc
> or 2d barcode, etc.)
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> Same goes for messages, digital media, people who claim to have specific
> IP, etc.
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> Mind, the latter might benefit from describing something using structured
> data, then bitmarking it.
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Sure you can counterfeit somoene's design but they'll end up getting your
payments. It's the ultimate deterrent! :)


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> Timh.
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> Timh
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>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:24 pm, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Hi All
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>> Im currently working with a project called bitmark [1].
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>> The idea is that you can mark content on the web, on a phone, via email,
>> geo located, on the internet of things, or in the real world (anything with
>> an IRI, which to say, anything).  The concept of a mark is a show of
>> approval, and the recipient can in turn, mark other users etc.
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>> This has a payment element and a reputational element.  The idea of
>> marking is money+reputation.
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>> My use case is in regard to the marking of real world clothing.  To mark
>> clothing a unique identifier is preferred.  It would be possible to mark to
>> a QR code which contains enough entropy to store an identifier.  But
>> relatively few people would want to wear clothing with a QR code on it.
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>> The solution to this would be to design unique fashion items such as
>> T-Shirts, trousers and other items of clothing such that the design could
>> be translated, via an algorithm, to a machine readable identifier.
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>> Each item of clothing would be a unique fashion statement but also carry
>> transferrable reputation of the wearer.  A web based ledger can be used to
>> see how much that item has been marked, when the marking was carried out,
>> and who it was by.  Either by a known individual, or anonymously.
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>> It would be possible to send transfers to the clothing items using the
>> web payments specification and/or crypto currencies over the internet,
>> using a internet connected device, such as a computer, mobile phone, tablet
>> or web enabled eye wear.
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>> The owner of the garment is able to look up online, the marking of values
>> of that item.  Furthermore, an app on a mobile device would allow the
>> wearer to receive updates in real time which would notify the user via
>> sound or a vibration.
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>> In this way individuals area able to know when they are dressed well and
>> when it is appreciated by others. It can be possible to quantitatively
>> discover which designs suit the wearer most.  And it can perhaps also lead
>> to interesting social situations or friendly rivalry.
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>> As will most things in this group the concept is extensible to anything
>> on the web, but this specific use case is related to clothing.
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>> Would this be a use case that the payments group would be interested in?
>> I have started to work on an implementation and would be happy to share a
>> demo if anyone would like to see more.
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>> Thanks
>> Melvin
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>> [1] https://github.com/project-bitmark/marking/wiki
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