Re: Just off the wire

+1

Comments on that post make it clear that the motivations and work of the
W3C is entirely mis-understood
(Not that I'd read too much into blog comments but hey...)

On 1 November 2014 14:40, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote:

> +1
>
> Stephane, it might be useful for the W3C to issue its own "media advisory"
> to frame things for bloggers/journalists. It is, in fact, rather difficult
> for those who are tangential to the structured and contextually-constrained
> W3C process to write about it in a way that will map fully to how it ought
> to have been said, in the views of direct participants.
>
> Joseph Potvin
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org> wrote:
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>>
>>  Was kind of confused after reading that!
>>>
>> in case you want to know, I'm also confused. We had a good interview with
>> the guy, but the overall output is misleading in many ways imho.
>> Obviously the point that anything will be done before sept 2017 is a
>> complete misunderstanding. This is the date of the end of the group.
>>
>> the message I've tried to make and didn't get through is that:
>> *the group is not setup to standardize bitcoin or crypto-currencies in
>> general
>> *the objective is to enable more easily payments with bitcoin and alike
>> as a payment instrument, together with other legacy instruments
>> *the group is likely to focus first on the major issues e-commerce is
>> facing today: fraud and card abandonment. This is were the need is, this is
>> were the demand is and this is were we have resources in the group as of
>> now. wallet is one way for of adressing this
>>
>> I'm surely convinced that bitcoin and crypto-currencies are the major
>> innovation in payment in the last decade. But at this point in time, I feel
>> it is still in the innovation space, and not yet in the standardization
>> space. I'm sure the time will come, but I've not seen yet any major player
>> coming to the group with specific needs for standardization.
>>
>> steph
>>
>>  I do feel that the charter and use cases are underweight crypto
>>> currencies.  Those document read like the group is unaware either that
>>> crypto currencies exist, or that it is the major innovation payments in
>>> the last decade.  Not all together accurate, but neither a million miles
>>> away from the mark.
>>>
>>> It's not all that clear how much of a role there is for crypto currency
>>> work in this group, or how welcome it would be.  As someone working in
>>> this area, I'd like to follow this work, but am unsure how much or how
>>> little to participate in the core discussion.
>>>
>>> The piece didnt really go in to the fact that very few crypto firms have
>>> engaged the payments group.  Either as W3C members, as individuals on
>>> the mailing list (although Amir has posted a few times), or at the
>>> workshop.  This group has been publicized well on bitcoin mailing lists.
>>>
>>> The web is generally open ended enough for there to be a place in the
>>> standard for crypto currencies, even though it's not explicitly stated.
>>>
>>> Personally I will probably take 80% of the work done here, and create
>>> 20% a new standard that should be closely compatible with w3c payments,
>>> work with bitcoin and other cryptos, and hopefully be a basis for v2 of
>>> the spec.  But that's probably looking at sometime closer to 2020 ...
>>> hopefully more btc people will engage during this time, indeed, I've had
>>> conversations with core devs in the last week about a documenting
>>> RESTful APIs which are starting to go into the core in the next weeks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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