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Re: The UN Millenium declaration

From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:46:54 -0800
Message-ID: <4ED91D1E.4090400@sunshine.net>
To: public-webpayments@w3.org
On 12/2/11 8:46 AM, Andrew Miller wrote:

> More research needed! But very interesting so far.

Andrew and Melvin, it is indeed interesting. But on my reading of the 
links there's a basic confusion from the beginning; there's the UN 
Millennium 'forum' -- NGOs etc. -- that were urging the UN to adopt 
certain principles:

http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm

And then there's the actual declaration by the UN:

http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration/ares552e.htm

This is confusing especially because the 'forum' one is placed under a 
link at the UN that ends in 'declaration'; but it's because, I assume, 
the UN helped organize the forum as a way to gather input for the 
declaration.

But the quote about the restructuring and currency only appears in the 
first, NGOs document, not the actual UN resolution adopted.

In other words the original post was incorrect: the "UN Millennium 
declaration" didn't say that; it was said in the other one, by the NGOs.

It's still interesting that it had gotten that far already in 2000; 
but then, considering what's happening with the Occupy movement, 
statements like that are flowing all over the world right now by 
'alternative' movements. The problem as I understand it is still to 
get it going in the main structure -- including the UN, as far as I 
can see. And PaySwarm, BitCoin, and CCN of course. :-) . Maybe if we 
get all those going we won't need a UN. ;-) .

Steven Rowat



>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Melvin Carvalho
> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 2 December 2011 17:23, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net
>     <mailto:steven_rowat@sunshine.net>> wrote:
>      > On 12/2/11 4:44 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>      >>
>      >> The UN Millenium declaration urges all governments
>      >>
>      >> To make serious commitments to restructure the global financial
>      >> architecture based on principles of equity, transparency,
>      >> accountability and democracy, and to balance, with the
>     participation
>      >> of civil society organizations, the monetary means to favour human
>      >> endeavour and ecology, such as an alternative time-based currency.
>      >
>      >
>      > Interesting if true, but in looking through the declaration at:
>      >
>      > http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration/ares552e.htm
>      >
>      > I can't find all the elements of your statement. Specifically I
>     can't find
>      > the commitment to 'restructure' or to 'alternative time-based
>     currency'.
>      > Perhaps I'm missing it, or perhaps there was another version
>     released at a
>      > different time?
>      >
>      > In that version, the word 'currency' does not appear to exist,
>     nor does
>      > 'time-based', nor does, 'restructure'.
>      >
>      > I've also had a quick scan down the current UN goals website,
>     but can't see
>      > any reference to this financial restructuring:
>      >
>      > http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/
>      >
>      > If you feel you are accurately paraphrasing some section, or a
>     different
>      > version than the above, could you point out which?
>
>     bingo!
>
>     http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
>
>      >
>      > Thanks
>      >
>      > Steven Rowat
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Miller
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