Re: TPAC Plenary Wednesday - rww/ldp & webid

On 22 September 2012 22:07, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:

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> On 22 Sep 2012, at 17:24, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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> > On 9/22/12 2:57 AM, Henry Story wrote:
> >> On 21 Sep 2012, at 18:36, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/21/12 9:54 AM, Henry Story wrote:
> >>>> On 21 Sep 2012, at 15:42, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/21/12 5:09 AM, Henry Story wrote:
> >>>>>> 2. Hands on using tools the community has built
> >>>>>>   * Make a WebID profile and certificate
> >>>>>>   * build a group of all members present
> >>>>>>   * give access to members of the group to some resources, Give
> access to friends of members of the group to others, etc...
> >>>>> Shouldn't we make this an interop level 0 item for the RWW community?
> >>>> What do you mean? (I mean how do we make this an interop level 0
> item?)
> >>> I am referring to something like SWAT0 [1][2]. A variant that focuses
> on the functionality listed above which is a good baseline.
> >> yes good idea. We should try to see if we can get the SWAT tests
> working.
> >
> > How about just making RWW-0 and then simply have it cover:
> >
> > 1. Making a cert
> > 2. Authenticating via WebID
> > 3. Authorize access to a Resource via a WebID based ACL .
> >
> > Simple as that.
>
> Good idea.
>
> >>
> >>>> It is true that we need to work on interoperability at this level. At
> present I think we'll probably find different platforms do things
> differently... But if we could demo it on even one server, then we can
> bring up the interop issue...
> >>> Demo on one server? We are dealing with the Web aren't we? There
> should be many interoperable servers that collectively make the point. As I
> keep on trying to tell you, this isn't solely about UI and/or UX. It's a
> composite of the aforementioned, combined with standards compliance etc..
> >> I am not saying this thing should work on one server. Just that if we
> have not reached interoperability completely by the time of TPAC, we can
> use TPAC to give us an aim of having software that should be interoperable,
> test it in there in an interoperability session,  discuss the issues, and
> come up with conventions [1] so that we then do become interoperable.
> >
> > There are more than enough servers in place for what I described as
> RWW-0 above.
>
> I really hope to have a new implementation of it by tpac :-)
>
> >>
> >> Of course interoperability is the goal. But we may not have achieved it
> at the access control level yet by TPAC. That in part what the get together
> is for. (As well as introducing new people to what we are doing.
> >
> > How have you arrived at this conclusion? Have you asked members of this
> forum about the statues of their products re. RWW-0 interop?
>
> Good idea. +1 for adding a RWW page on RWW-0
>

data.fm can authenticate and do ACL but not create a cert

is it OK to point to another IdP for profile management?


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> Henry
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> >
> > Kingsley
> >>
> >>    Henry
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> >>
> >> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/Convention-Philosophical-Study-David-Lewis/dp/0631232575
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Links:
> >>>
> >>> 1. http://bit.ly/NGY6Ag - SWAT0
> >>> 2. http://bit.ly/R5rj7Q -- SWAT0 Results
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kingsley
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kingsley Idehen
> >>>>> Founder & CEO
> >>>>> OpenLink Software
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Kingsley Idehen
> >>> Founder & CEO
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> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kingsley Idehen
> > Founder & CEO
> > OpenLink Software
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