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Re: Conferences

From: Max Froumentin <maxf@webfoundation.org>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:55:27 +0200
To: public-webhistory@w3.org
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It was indeed Bob Hopgood, and he sent his latest version. It is now at http://www.w3.org/2012/08/history-of-the-web/origins.htm in its original HTML version.

Again, recommended reading, from someone who was around very early on.

Max.



Max Froumentin <maxf@webfoundation.org> wrote:

>Continuing my exploration of early academic articles about the web…
>
>Hindsight makes some old articles from early web and hypertext
>conferences very entertaining reading. Yet, I've failed to locate any
>trace of what appears to be timbl's first paper: "World-Wide Web:
>Information Universe", Electronic Publishing: Research, Applications
>and Policy, April 1992. If anybody has an idea where to find that
>paper, I'm sure it would be quite interesting. Else, I'll try the long
>route of asking him.
>
>While googling I found this "History of the Web" PDF [1], which is
>quite interesting and touches on topics not usually addressed, like
>markup. It doesn't say who wrote it, though. I have a vague suspicion
>that it's Bob Hopgood: the document's copyright is with Oxford Brooks
>uni, Bob's actually visible on a photo (p. 21 with Tim's father), and
>he's modest enough not to have put his name on the document. I will go
>the long route and ask him.
>
>[1] http://www.weblab.isti.cnr.it/education/documents/origins.pdf
>
>Cheers,
>Max.
>
>
>On 16 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Max Froumentin wrote:
>
>> At least there's a photo, at the top of the article, whose date
>indicates it was taken at Hypertext '91 :
>> 
>>
>http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/7/10/crossdressing-compression-and-a-collider-the-first-photo-on-the-web
>> 
>> The rest of the article, about the Horrible Cernettes picture, is
>worth reading too.
>> 
>> Max.
>> 
>> On 12 Jul 2012, at 00:04, Shane Hudson wrote:
>> 
>>> There seems to be a lot of interesting reports from Hypertext'91 but
>as of yet I have not found any that are freely available. Tempted to
>add the digital library to my ACM subscription, but unfortunately I
>would still not be able to share it.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Max Froumentin
><maxf@webfoundation.org> wrote:
>>> On the subject of conferences,
>>> 
>>> I was reading a book recounting the first conferences on cybernetics
>(then called conferences on the Circular Causal and Feedback Mechanisms
>in Biological and Social Systems), in 1946, and the author recounts
>quite vividly the discussions that took place then, which turned out to
>be pivotal for the newborn information science. It so happens that some
>of the conference's discussions were recorded in shorthand by one of
>the attendees and proved to be more valuable than the papers presented
>[1].
>>> 
>>> I don't know if at, say, Hypertext '91 there were similarly
>fascinating and important discussions on the newborn Web, and if they
>were properly recorded. I can see a "trip report" at [2], but it's for
>sale! I hope there are other testimonials to be found (it's not as if
>all they attendees are now dead) and studied to trace the evolution of
>concepts and ideas.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] The book is "The Information" by James Gleick and a site on the
>conferences is at
>http://www.asc-cybernetics.org/foundations/history/MacySummary.htm
>>> [2] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=134438
>>> 
>>>  I recently wondered about the proceedings of early-Web conferences.
>Not proceedings as in the list of papers published, but discussions
>that may have taken place, that were (or not) recorded.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:40, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have what I think is the first A4 leaflet produced by Tim, that
>my wife
>>>> brought back from Hypertext 91' in San-Antonio Texas (a conf she
>attended as a
>>>> Digital engineer working on their own hypertext of that time,
>called Memex,
>>>> integrated in DecWindows). It has on one side a variation of the
>"Web bus" [...]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shane Hudson (Website Developer - www.ShaneHudson.net)
>>> 
>>> 07794746595
>>> 
>>> @ShaneHudson / +Shane Hudson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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