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Re: Feedback from PFWG on Touch Events 13 September 2011 draft

From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:16:19 -0400
Message-ID: <4E96F2B3.6030801@nokia.com>
To: ext Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
CC: public-webevents@w3.org, List WAI Liaison <wai-liaison@w3.org>, List WAI PF <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, Sangwhan Moon <smoon@opera.com>
Hi Michael, All

We discussed your comments during WebEvents' 11-Oct-2011 call [1] and 
captured your comment #1 as [LC-7] and your comment #2 as [LC-6] in our 
LC disposition of comments document.

* Re LC-6 - we agree additional non-normative tutorial/Primer type 
information for the Touch Events spec would be useful. I created 
[Action-85] to track this request. If you and/or your colleagues wish to 
contribute to such information, please let me know. However, we do not 
think completion of this action should block this spec from progressing 
on the Recommendation track (and BTW, the next step will be another LCWD).

Regarding the interaction between touch events and mouse events, we 
agree additional non-normative text would be useful and think the 
information already included in section 7 of the spec [2] is sufficient. 
If you have additional non-normative text you want to propose, please 
send to public-webevents at w3.org so we can review it.

* Re LC-7 - Sangwhan agreed to address these two editorial comments (add 
units to attribute definitions and add a definition of preventDefault). 
I noticed he already made two related commits:

   http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/rev/bee004414dba
   http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/rev/a8b5ef36b865

and the result is reflected in the latest Editor's Draft of the spec:

   http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/v1/touchevents.html#attributes
   http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/v1/touchevents.html#glossary

For the purposes of comment tracking, please let us know if our 
responses are OK or not.

-Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#item04
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-touch-events-20110913/#mouse-events
[LC-6] 
http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-6
[LC-7] 
http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-7
[Action-85] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/85


On 9/28/11 4:05 PM, ext Michael Cooper wrote:
> The following are comments from the Protocols and Formats Working 
> Group on the 13 September 2011 Touch Events version 1 Last Call 
> Working Draft http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-touch-events-20110913/. 
> Authorization to send these as PFWG comments is archived at 
> http://www.w3.org/2011/09/28-pf-minutes#item06.
>
> Note that some PFWG members exempted themselves from our review of 
> this specification because of patent concerns at their companies.
>
> 1) If a Web application can deal with touch events, it can intercept 
> them, and the idea is that in this case no corresponding mouse events 
> will be dispatched. However, if the Web application is not 
> specifically written for touch input devices, it can react to the 
> subsequent mouse events instead. This can be a powerful paradigm, but 
> it is not fully described in this spec. The relation between touch 
> events and mouse events should be explained in more detail for authors 
> who want to achieve device independence.  There is a general need for 
> a "primer" document in the W3C space explaining the various DOM events 
> and how they relate to each other, also providing best practices of 
> device-specific and device-independent authoring.
>
> 2) Minor editorial issues with the spec:
>
> - Section 3.1: For each of the attributes, the unit should be 
> mentioned (device pixels, CSS pixels, etc.)
>
> - Section 7: The "preventDefault" method should be explained or listed 
> in the glossary.
>
> For Protocols and Formats Working Group,
> Michael Cooper, Team Contact
> -- 
>
> Michael Cooper
> Web Accessibility Specialist
> World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
> E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org>
> Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/>
>
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