Re: [W3C Web Crypto] Call for Consensus on removing algorithms from the web API specification -> 20th of October

On 10/06/2015 04:06 PM, Harry Halpin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/06/2015 03:52 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/06/2015 02:10 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com> wrote:
>>>>> Correct, and I believe Richard was looking at getting someone to implement
>>>>> it for Mozilla 'real soon'; there was just some additional NSS API work that
>>>>> had to happen before they could expose it to WebCrypto, and Firefox's
>>>>> underlying cryptographic library supports it with one or two tweaks.
>>>> Yes, we are working on this in Q4.  I would oppose removing RSA-PSS
>>>> from WebCrypto.
>>>>
>>>> Note also that RSA-PSS is a requirement for TLS 1.3.
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>> Do you think we should delay Rec to get this algorithm?
>>>
>>> If not, do you think its possible to get this out at latest by end of
>>> November?
>> Depends on what you mean by "out".  If you mean "landed in Nightly",
>> maybe.  If you mean "in release Firefox", no.
> 
> I'm OK with using "nightly" as our test-suite, assuming there's
> assurance from the relevant person in the browser team (you in this
> case!) that the algorithm in nightly will eventually get in release.

>From a process perspective, nightly counts as an implementation; we can
test its interop. From a developer usage perspective, I agree we want to
see it in the release too.

--Wendy

> 
>  After all, the end-developer is developing for release, but we don't
> want the specs algorithms to be dated quite so easily upon hitting Rec :)
> 
>>
>> --Richard
>>
>>
>>>   cheers,
>>>           harry
>>>
>>>> --Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Eric Roman <ericroman@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The meeting notes say that there are no implementations of RSA-PSS:
>>>>>>> No implementations: RSA-PSS, AES-CMAC, AES-CFB, CONCAT
>>>>>> Note that is not correct -- at least the Chrome browser implements RSA-PSS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:20 AM, GALINDO Virginie
>>>>>> <Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following our last meeting call, we decided to remove from the normative
>>>>>>> part of our specification the following algorithms for not being implemented
>>>>>>> in at least 2 of the platform tested : RSA-PSS, AES-CMAC, AES-CFB, CONCAT,
>>>>>>> DH. Detailed discussion can be found under
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2015/09/28-crypto-minutes.html.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This mail is a call for consensus to validate that decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone objecting to that decision should make his motivated point before
>>>>>>> the 20th of October at 17:00 UTC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this decision is endorsed, the algorithms descriptions will be
>>>>>>> gathered in a dedicated Note.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Virginie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair of the web crypto WG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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