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Re: Harry's talk at CCC

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:41:38 +0100
Message-ID: <50EAFAC2.8030900@w3.org>
To: Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com>
CC: Zooko Wilcox-OHearn <zooko@leastauthority.com>, "public-webcrypto@w3.org" <public-webcrypto@w3.org>
On 12/30/2012 10:58 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Zooko Wilcox-OHearn
> <zooko@leastauthority.com> wrote:
>> Harry:
>>
>> I just watched this:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkp0yo7Q0Ow
>>
>> Way to go! What a good talk. I hope it will elicit some feedback from
>> the audience. I have the uncomfortable feeling that when I've
>> solicited feedback from people so far, that their feedback has not
>> been put to good use. ☹ This makes me reluctant to approach more
>> cryptographers and ask them to contribute.
> I'm not sure what you mean here. The feedback was extensively
> discussed, a response was provided, and even more discussion was had
> about who and what this API was trying to target.
>
> In particular, we had quite a bit of discussion (and dissent, and
> eventually consensus) on the nature of algorithms and the API. It was
> repeatedly explained (on the list and on the call) why approaches like
> custom namespaces or error logs are not ideal, and about how the
> possible use cases exist.
>
>
>> Maybe we could put their feedback to "good use", even if we aren't
>> going to actually *take their advice*, by posting their feedback on a
>> web page and our response to it, or something. Something semi-formal
>> that gives the impression to them and to the public that we *heard
>> them*.
> Isn't this exactly what the mailing list archives are intended to do?
> The level of formalism you propose is not something I've seen
> practiced in other working groups, so I'm trying to understand the
> motivation.
>
>> I'm mainly thinking of the letter from Somorovsky, Paterson, Jager:
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Sep/0186.html

A record of feedback and our formal responses to it is required by W3C 
process, although not now, but when we want to exit Last Call for CR. We 
will need to e-mail  people who have submitted comments to explicitly 
make them aware of our response. While this usually isn't done till a 
bit later in the life of a WG, we can create such a "Disposition of 
Comments" document now. Happy to create such a document,  here is an 
example [1].

    cheers,
        harry

[1] 
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42786/WD-mediaont-api-1.0-20100608/doc/

>> Regards,
>>
>> Zooko
>>
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