Re: UseCase : Strong Personal Identity Certificate by CA

On 2012-08-13 11:22, Mountie Lee wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm not requesting more functions.
> 
> it is the recommendation for adding use case.

Hi Mountie,
I don't understand the use-case.

Most important: What is (in your opinion) missing today?

How do clients get the certificates?
What should trusted mean for the API?

Regards,
Anders

> 
> regards
> mountie.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren@telia.com <mailto:anders.rundgren@telia.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2012-08-13 10:08, Mountie Lee wrote:
>     > Hi.
>     > I meant
>     > CA can issue personal certificate ONCE with strong identity validation.
>     > I did not though two factor authentication or others PER USE.
>     >
>     > I can search http://www.symantec.com/verisign/digital-id
>     > but the cert is not enough to trust the personal identity.
>     >
>     > just I expect the new ca service like "Digital ID with Extended Validation" as use case.
>     > because of web crypto API.
> 
>     Hi Mountie,
>     I'm not sure what function you are requesting.
> 
>     Extended Validation is a CA policy for server certificates that are supposed to be "automatically" highly trusted by user agents.
>     It is not possible to translate this to client certificates because the relying party is not your platform/user agent/web browser/etc. It is another system
> 
>     I don't think that even the concept of trusted personal identity is generally acknowledged.
>     This tends to be rather local, national or community-based.
> 
>     I have a company certificate.  It is trusted within the company since it was internally issued using an approved process. However, outside of the company it is unknown (non-trusted).
> 
>     Best regards,
>     Anders
> 
>     >
>     > best regards
>     > mountie.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren@telia.com <mailto:anders.rundgren@telia.com> <mailto:anders.rundgren@telia.com <mailto:anders.rundgren@telia.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On 2012-08-13 07:46, Mountie Lee wrote:
>     >     > I think following use case can be considered.
>     >     >
>     >     > CA issues strong personal identity certificates.
>     >     > it can be equivalent level to EVSSL on server side.
>     >     >
>     >     > current personal certificate issued by CA is just checking email validity.
>     >     >
>     >     > if web crypto API is widely accepted in major user agents
>     >     > certificate in user agents will have more functionality by using API.
>     >     >
>     >     > as a CA, they can consider to issue new type of certificate with strong personal identity validation.
>     >
>     >     Hi Mountie,
>     >
>     >     Certificate provisioning is AFAIK outside of WebCrypto scope.
>     >
>     >     Banks and government agencies in the EU currently deploy their own software for provisioning since none of the user agents out there support provisioning of two-factor (key + PIN) authentication tokens [1].
>     >
>     >     Well, this wasn't entirely correct.  When there is a *business incentive* to support provisioning of two-factor tokens, it is (of course) honored:
>     >     http://googlecommerce.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/use-any-credit-or-debit-card-with.html
>     >
>     >     Regards,
>     >     Anders
>     >
>     >     1] If you only need a client certificate and HTTPS you can use existing schemes like <keygen> and "CertEnroll".
>     >
>     >     >
>     >     > regards
>     >     > mountie.
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