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Re: Response to WebCGM 2.1 Last Call comment

From: Innovimax SARL <innovimax@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:45:13 +0200
Message-ID: <546c6c1c0908250145h39553af8q50e98661e8c3cbd@mail.gmail.com>
To: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
Cc: public-webcgm@w3.org
Dear Thierry,

This is simply... perfect !

Thanks

Mohamed

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> Dear Mohamed,
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> The WebCGM Working Group acknowledges that you are satisfied with our
> resolution about your first comment regarding the XML Schema or Relax NG.
>
> Regarding your second comment "interaction between WebCGM and CSS"
> you have requested in your last email, "to consider adding an
> informative note on that work in the spec (with one or two sentence along)".
>
> The WebCGM Working Group had fulfilled your request and has added an
> informative note regarding CSS.
> This note is incorporated into the WebCGM 2.1 CR version and is available at
>
> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/drafts/current-editor-21/WebCGM21-Concepts.html#DOM-scope
>
> See paragraphs 3-4, as well as the new linked non-normative reference to
> "Stylable CGM" in 1.3.
>
>
> Please reply and let us know whether you accept the WG
> response or not.
>
> This issue is our last before requesting CR transition to the Director.
> Please reply ASAP, in order to not delay our publication track.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thierry Michel.
>
>
>
> Innovimax SARL wrote:
>>
>> Dear Lofton,
>>
>> Please find my answer inside the email
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com
>> <mailto:lofton@rockynet.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Dear Mohamed,
>>
>>    The WebCGM Working Group has reviewed the comments you sent [1]
>>    about the WebCGM 2.1 Second Last Call Working Draft [2] published on
>>    04 June 2009.  Thank you for having taken the time to review the
>>    document and send us comments.
>>
>>    The Working Group's response resolution to your comment is included
>>    below.
>>
>>    Please review it carefully and acknowledge this WebCGM WG response
>>    by replying to this mail and copying the WebCGM public mailing list,
>>    public-webcgm@w3.org <mailto:public-webcgm@w3.org>.  Please reply
>>    before 17 August 2009, and let us know whether you accept the WG
>>    response or not.  If we receive no reply from you by August 17, then
>>    we will default your reply to "WebCGM WG response accepted."
>>
>>    In case you do not accept the WG response, you are requested to
>>    provide a specific solution for or a path to a consensus with the
>>    Working Group.
>>
>>    If such a consensus cannot be achieved, you will be given the
>>    opportunity to raise a formal objection which will then be reviewed
>>    by the Director during the transition of this document to the next
>>    stage in the W3C Recommendation Track.
>>
>>    Best regards,
>>
>>    On behalf of the WebCGM Working Group,
>>    Lofton Henderson, WebCGM WG Chair.
>>
>>    [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm/2009Jun/0002.html
>>    [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-webcgm21-20090604/
>>    _____________________________________________________________
>>    * Comment Sent: Sat, 20 Jun 2009
>>    * Archived:
>>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm/2009Jun/0002.html
>>    The WebCGM WG has the following responses to your comment:
>>    ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>    SUMMARY of your first comment:
>>    1 == moving forward with XML Schema or Relax NG ==
>>    Sticking to DTD to define a XML dialect is neither sufficient
>>    neither a way to widespread the use of this XML dialect. For that, I
>>    ask the WG to consider providing normative XML Schema and/or Relax
>>    NG schema of the XCF model. It will help adoption especially because
>>    XCF uses Namespaces.
>>
>>    RESPONSE to your first comment:
>>    The WebCGM Working Group (WG) agrees that WebCGM could potentially
>>    benefit by addition of a normative schema -- XML Schema or Relax NG.
>>    Unfortunately, this proposal is beyond the scope of this 2nd LCWD
>>    review, and it is deemed to be too late in the WebCGM 2.1
>>    development cycle. Ideally, such a proposal would have been included
>>    in the WebCGM 2.1 Requirements, or before 1st LCWD review at latest.
>>    The implementation of such a proposal would involve major disruption
>>    of the WebCGM 2.1 text -- removal of the DTD and complete rewriting
>>    of Chapter 4 (at least). Since it does not address an error in the
>>    specification, or a serious defect, or violation of any W3C
>>    requirement, the WG believes that the proposal should be postponed
>>    until a future WebCGM development cycle.
>>
>>
>> Fair enough. I was not suggesting removing the DTD
>>
>>
>>    As an interim step, the WG thinks that a non-normative Technical
>>    Note, separate from the progression of 2.1 WebCGM, might be an
>>    interesting approach. The WG would also welcome an initial
>>    contribution, if you have interest in making such.
>>
>>
>> That's seems exactly what I proposed. I'm sorry since I don't have any
>> initial contribution, but I will be happy to give it a try or to review them
>> with care
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    SUMMARY of your second comment:
>>    2 == interaction between WebCGM and CSS ==
>>    Is it possible to consider the role that could play CSS vis ŕ vis
>>    WebCGM ?
>>
>>    RESPONSE to your second comment:
>>    Potential relationships between WebCGM and CSS were studied in some
>>    detail [3] prior to the WebCGM 2.0 standardization. This study [3]
>>    developed a detailed model and showed the technical feasibility for
>>    a rich application of CSS-like styling to WebCGM.
>>    [3] http://www.cgmopen.org/technical/stylable_cgm_submitted_0324.pdf
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to consider adding an informative note on that work in the
>> spec (with one or two sentence along), if it is not already there ?
>>
>>
>>    Despite the technical feasibility, the WebCGM 2.0 authors and
>>    constituents agreed that the the principal WebCGM use cases did not
>>    justify the cost and implementation effort of such a full-featured
>>    normative CSS capability in WebCGM. Therefore normative CSS-like
>>    style sheets were not further pursued.
>>
>>    Nevertheless, whenever possible, applicable features and
>>    characteristics of CSS were followed in the design of WebCGM 2.0,
>>    especially the new DOM-based Style Properties feature. For example
>>    the inheritance model of CSS was adapted directly into the Style
>>    Properties inheritance model (section 5.4), and there are a number
>>    of other examples of functionality borrowed more-or-less directly
>>    from CSS.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your answers
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mohamed
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