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Fwd: Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:43:26 +0100
Cc: "Dave Singer" <singer@apple.com>
To: "public-webapps WG" <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.v8vzqobgwxe0ny@widsith.eng.oslo.osa>
Further explanation from Apple...

------- Forwarded message -------
From: "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
To: "Arthur Barstow" <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Cc: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "Doug Schepers"  
<schepers@w3.org>, "Philippe Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>, "Charles  
McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
Subject: Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:19:54 +0100

That's fine.  Sorry, I am in Europe (between the said tracking meeting,
and the 3gpp meeting, so I only just saw the message.  To save me digging
around and finding the lists, and/or finding that they don't accept emails
  from non-members, could someone volunteer to forward to the list?


On Jan 27, 2012, at 13:39 , Arthur Barstow wrote:

> [ + Charles (other WG Chair) and PLH (I think Doug is traveling this  
> week) ]
>
> This is good feedback that should be shared with the WG so I would  
> appreciate it if you or someone else at Apple would please send your  
> comments to at least the group's member list although the public list is  
> my preference. Can this please be done today?
>
> -Art
>
> On 1/27/12 3:04 AM, ext David Singer wrote:
>> Hi Art
>>
>> following up to Ted's message, I think I have three concerns at this  
>> time.
>>
>> 1.  I think there is some temptation to have WebApps take on any new  
>> API work, because of course web applications could indeed use almost  
>> anything.  But that risks losing the focus of the WebApps group as the  
>> place where work that is uniquely needed, or most needed to "enable  
>> improved client-side application development on the Web" [webapps  
>> charter].  Speech is here a user-interface, input/output mechanism, not  
>> really specific to that domain.
>>
>> 2.  Historically, the user interface to the web was a virtual  
>> keyboard/mouse, and quite wide variation in physical instantiation has  
>> been possible (and used). There is a lot of temptation to make specific  
>> provision of other input/output methods, but doing so brings two large  
>> issues when the content then ties itself to those particular  
>> input/output methods, that I don't think the W3C has really got to  
>> grips with:  what happens to content portability (is the method  
>> available or usable on all platforms?), and what happens to  
>> accessibility (are there alternative modalities available for those for  
>> whom this method is inaccessible?).  I raised this concern about other  
>> UI method-specific APIs under consideration, and I think it's still  
>> largely unexplored.
>>
>> 2. Speech is an area with IPR -- it's been an active research area for  
>> decades; we may have some. Without doing a lot more work I don't know  
>> the extent to which the proposed work would encounter IPR, but I think  
>> it would be prudent to think about that.  It may be best to have the  
>> work done in a less general-purpose WG (though, as I say above, I don't  
>> think WebApps should really be seen as general-purpose), and actively  
>> seek to set a scope and a membership that minimize issues down the road.
>>
>> I'm sorry this has taken a while; for me, the do-not-track meeting  
>> proved rather time-consuming.
>>
>> Best wishes, I hope this helps
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 20:02 , Arthur Barstow wrote:
>>
>>> David, Maciej - what is Apple's position on this proposal?
>>>
>>> I would greatly appreciate it, if you would please reply on  
>>> public-webapps by January 19 or if you need a couple of days  
>>> extension, please let me know.
>>>
>>> -Thanks, Art
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: 	CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
>>> Resent-Date: 	Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:36:21 +0000
>>> Resent-From: 	<public-webapps@w3.org>
>>> Date: 	Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:31:06 -0500
>>> From: 	ext Arthur Barstow<art.barstow@nokia.com>
>>> To: 	public-webapps<public-webapps@w3.org>
>>> CC: 	<public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Shires and some others at Google proposed [1] that WebApps add
>>> Speech API to WebApps' charter and they put forward the Speech
>>> Javascript API Specification [2] as as a starting point. Members of
>>> Mozilla and Nuance have voiced various levels of support for this
>>> proposal. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to add Speech API to
>>> WebApps' charter.
>>>
>>> Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged and silence
>>> will be considered as agreeing with the proposal. The deadline for
>>> comments is January 19 and all comments should be sent to  
>>> public-webapps
>>> at w3.org.
>>>
>>> -AB
>>>
>>> [1]  
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/1696.html
>>> [2]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/att-1696/speechapi.html
>>>
>>>
>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.


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