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RE: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

From: Young, Milan <Milan.Young@nuance.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:44:25 -0800
Message-ID: <1AA381D92997964F898DF2A3AA4FF9AD0E0E70E0@SUN-EXCH01.nuance.com>
To: <dbernard@intellectiongroup.com>, Deborah Dahl <dahl@conversational-technologies.com>, Satish S <satish@google.com>
CC: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, <public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org>
That's exactly the right question to ask.  Please take a look at: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/htmlspeech/XGR-htmlspeech-20111206/#requirements

I am also in support of Olli's statement that we may not be able to spec/implement the complete XG recommendation in one pass.  But decisions made toward the definition of that initial feature set should be made in a democratic forum.  I feel the best way to do that is to start where the last democratic forum left off, and whittle down from there as schedule requires.

Thank you


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Bernard [mailto:dbernard@intellectiongroup.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:14 AM
To: 'Deborah Dahl'; 'Satish S'; Young, Milan
Cc: 'Arthur Barstow'; 'public-webapps'; public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
Subject: RE: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

Deborah-

Is there a draft priority list in existence? I like the idea of getting "good enough" out there sooner, especially as an implementer with real projects in the space.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Dahl [mailto:dahl@conversational-technologies.com]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:43 AM
To: 'Satish S'; 'Young, Milan'
Cc: 'Arthur Barstow'; 'public-webapps'; public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
Subject: RE: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

Olli has a good point that it makes sense to implement the SpeechAPI in pieces. That doesn't mean that the WebApps WG only has to look at one proposal in deciding how to proceed with the work. Another option would be to start off the Speech API work in the Web Apps group with both proposals (the Google proposal and the SpeechXG report) and let the editors prioritize the order that the different aspects of the API are worked out and published as specs.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Satish S [mailto:satish@google.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:01 PM
> To: Young, Milan
> Cc: Arthur Barstow; public-webapps; public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
> Subject: Re: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
> 
> Milan,
> It looks like we fundamentally agree on several things:
> *  That we'd like to see the JavaScript Speech API included in the 
> WebApps' charter.*  That we believe the wire protocol is best suited 
> for another organization, such as IETF.*  That we believe the markup 
> bindings may be excluded.
> Our only difference seems to be whether to start with the extensive 
> Javascript API proposed in [1] or the simplified subset of it proposed 
> in [2] which supports majority of the use cases in the XG's Final 
> Report.
> 
> Art Barstow asked for "a relatively specific proposal" and provided 
> some precedence examples regarding the level of detail. [3] Olli 
> Pettay wrote in [4] "Since from practical point of view the
> API+protocol XG defined is a huge thing to implement at once, it makes
> sense to implement it in pieces."
> Starting with a baseline that supports the majority of use cases will 
> accelerate implementation, interoperability testing, standardization 
> and ultimately developer adoption.
> Cheers
> Satish
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/htmlspeech/XGR-htmlspeech/[2]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/att-
> 1696/speechapi.html[3]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
> webapps/2011OctDec/1474.html[4]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012JanMar/0068.htm
> l On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Young, Milan 
> <Milan.Young@nuance.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've made the point a few times now, and would appreciate a response.
> > Why are we preferring to seed WebApps speech with [2] when we 
> > already have [3] that represents industry consensus as of a month 
> > ago (Google not withstanding)?  Proceeding with [2] would almost 
> > surely delay the resulting specification as functionality would 
> > patched and haggled over to meet consensus.
> >
> > My counter proposal is to open the HTML/speech marriage in WebApps 
> > essentially where we left off at [3].  The only variants being: 1) 
> > Dropping the markup bindings in sections 7.1.2/7.1.3 because its 
> > primary supporter has since expressed non-interest, and 2) Spin the 
> > protocol specification in 7.2 out to the IETF.  If I need to 
> > formalize all of this in a document, please let me know.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/htmlspeech/XGR-htmlspeech/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:31 AM
> > To: public-webapps
> > Cc: public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
> > Subject: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
> >
> > Glen Shires and some others at Google proposed [1] that WebApps add 
> > Speech API to WebApps' charter and they put forward the Speech 
> > Javascript API Specification [2] as as a starting point. Members of 
> > Mozilla and Nuance have voiced various levels of support for this 
> > proposal. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to add Speech API to 
> > WebApps' charter.
> >
> > Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged and 
> > silence will be considered as agreeing with the proposal. The 
> > deadline for comments is January 19 and all comments should be sent 
> > to public-
> webapps
> > at w3.org.
> >
> > -AB
> >
> > [1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/1696.h
> > tml
> > [2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/att-
> 1696/s
> > peechapi.html
> >
> >
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