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Re: [IndexedDB] Interaction between transactions and objects that allow multiple operations

From: Jeremy Orlow <jorlow@chromium.org>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 10:17:42 +0100
Message-ID: <AANLkTilCOqRpQbj620oxsHFzZRiOev1jSxW4u1Y3bZ9A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Pablo Castro <Pablo.Castro@microsoft.com>
Cc: public-webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Pablo Castro <Pablo.Castro@microsoft.com>wrote:

> The interaction between transactions and objects that allow multiple
> operations is giving us trouble. I need to elaborate a little to explain the
> problem.
> You can perform operations in IndexedDB with or without an explicitly
> started transaction. When no transaction is present, you get an implicit one
> that is there for the duration of the operation and is committed and the end
> (or rolled-back if an error occurs).
> There are a number of operations in IndexedDB that are a single step. For
> example, store.put() occurs either entirely in the current transaction (if
> the user started one explicitly) or in an implicit transaction if there
> isn't one active at the time the operation starts. The interaction between
> the operation and transactions is straightforward in this case.
> On the other hand, other operations in IndexedDB return an object that then
> allows multiple operations on it. For example, when you open a cursor over a
> store, you can then move to the next row, update a row, delete a row, etc.
> The question is, what is the interaction between these operations and
> transactions? Are all interactions with a given cursor supposed to happen
> within the transaction that was active (implicit or explicit) when the
> cursor was opened? Or should each interaction happen in its own transaction
> (unless there is a long-lived active transaction, of course)?
> We have a few options:
> a) make multi-step objects bound to the transaction that was present when
> the object is first created (or an implicit one if none was present). This
> requires new APIs to mark cursors and such as "done" so implicit
> transactions can commit/abort, and has issues around use of the database
> object while a cursor with an implicit transaction is open.

I don't see much point to this option.

> b) make each interaction happen in its own transaction (explicit or
> implicit). This is quite unusual and means you'll get inconsistent reads
> from row to row while scanning unless you wrap cursor/index scans on
> transactions. It also probably poses interesting implementation challenges
> depending on what you're using as your storage engine.

This is how I read the original spec.

> c) require an explicit transaction always, along the lines Nikunj's
> original proposal had it. We would move most methods from database to
> transaction (except a few properties such as version and such, which it may
> still be ok to handle implicitly from the transactions perspective). This
> eliminates this whole problem altogether at the cost of an extra step
> required always.
> We would prefer to go with option c) and always require explicit
> transactions. Thoughts?

I'm happy with c.  It is unfortunate that it adds yet another step in the
process of doing anything with IndexedDB, but it's probably more likely to
yield results the author expected and will simplify things (for UAs and
Received on Wednesday, 5 May 2010 09:18:32 UTC

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