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Re: Application and Chrome

From: Kenneth Christiansen <kenneth.christiansen@openbossa.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:17:08 -0300
Message-ID: <n2r927d01d21004050817t50aa188ekb1e7a38c1f30f4ee@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth.christiansen@gmail.com>
Cc: public-webapps@w3.org
Maybe we could clear up the confusing simple by changing "Chrome - The
chrome comprises the visible parts of the user agent that do not
depend on the content (e.g. tool bars, title bars, menus)." to "Chrome
- The chrome comprises the visible parts of the user agent that do not
depend on the content (e.g. window decorations, widget specific tool
bars, title bars, menus).".

It might also be an idea to define "Screen Area" as the usable screen
estate, ie, the whole screen except global menus (as Mac OS X), panels
etc. and define that maximized would expand the screen area.

Comments?

Kenneth

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
<kenneth.christiansen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> One of the things that I find a bit unclear in
> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/ , is the use of the Chrome
> definition.
>
> The spec says: "Chrome - The chrome comprises the visible parts of the
> user agent that do not depend on the content (e.g. tool bars, title
> bars, menus).",
>
> but from talking to people, many confuse it with "window decorations"
> and "desktop area", because they assume Widgets to be applications and
> thus not have chrome, which is what most people do not want as they
> strife to make the web apps look like real applications and not
> applications running the the browser.
>
> Personally, I think we should leave out the Chrome part from the spec
> and talk about window decorations and desktop area instead to make
> this 100% clear.
>
> As there is talk about moving the view modes to CSSOM instead,
> supporting chrome and none-chrome seems like something that might be
> needed instead. One possible solution would be to introduce a new
> media feature such as (application) that would turn on application
> mode, in contrast to browser mode.
>
> The view-mode has use-cases in the browser case, especially because a
> web browser can be windowed/normal, maximized and fullscreen.
>
> On the other hand, the "(view-mode: application)" feels a bit strange
> in the browser case, so it might need renaming.
>
> Any comments, input?

-- 
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
Technical Lead / Senior Software Engineer
Qt Labs Americas, Nokia Technology Institute, INdT
Phone  +55 81 8895 6002 / E-mail kenneth.christiansen at openbossa.org
Received on Monday, 5 April 2010 15:17:43 GMT

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