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Re: What do we mean by "parking" Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:29:51 -0800
To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, robert@ocallahan.org
Cc: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Arthur Barstow" <art.barstow@nokia.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.u24qf12mwxe0ny@widsith.local>
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0800, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>  

> At the Web Apps WG face-to-face meeting at TPAC, all parties agreed (in  
> the room at least) to let the spec continue without fully specifying the  
> SQL dialect.

This is not at all the sense that I got. Hixie agreed to specify something  
that he could copy-and-paste, since he doesn't see the value in working  
hard on agreeing to a dialect where two major players aren't interested,  
and others are sufficiently unimpressed by the SQL approach that they plan  
to follow the WebSimpleDB approach.

> The reason is that all parties who currently have or are in the process  
> of developing implementations did not appear to need it, and the parties  
> that would be blocked (Mozilla, Microsoft) said their decision would not  
> be swayed by having a spec, and would not implement regardless. Thus, it  
> did not seem there would be a practical benefit to specifying the SQL  
> dialect. Thus, those present said they were satisfied to specify that  
> SQLite v3 is the dialect.

In other words, there is a specified dialogue - but not enough apparent  
energy to try and go further.

My sense is that this much agreement was considered important to justify  
keeping the spec in the WG.

> Note: I would try to find Apple resources to help write a SQL dialect  
> spec if anyone says it will materially help them to have such a spec  
> (and the level of interest doesn't reach the threshold where Hixie wants  
> to write it himself). I don't think I could get resources if it's just a  
> busywork exercise.

Opera would be interested in you doing that (or Hixie, but it seems he is  
not) so we could keep building interoperable implementations, if you're  
not happy with SQLite v3.



Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
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