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Re: Widgets PAG seeks feedback on Widget Updates spec

From: Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:51:58 +0200
Message-ID: <4A520F8E.3060001@opera.com>
To: Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>
CC: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>


On 7/6/09 4:47 PM, Robin Berjon wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 16:07 , Marcos Caceres wrote:
>> On 7/6/09 3:35 PM, Robin Berjon wrote:
>>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:24 , Marcos Caceres wrote:
>>>> The purpose of widget.update() is/was _not_ to "update" the widget in
>>>> any meaningful way:
>>>> (...)
>>>> In other words, it was/is a means to for a widget to ask the Widget
>>>> User Agent if an update is available from the remote location
>>>> addressed by the update element's href attribute (so, really it should
>>>> have been called "checkForUpdate()" or "updateInfo = new
>>>> UpdateChecker()", which the example begins to elude to). As it says in
>>>> the spec, "_actually performing the update is left to the discretion
>>>> of the widget user agent._"
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification. This however does not strike me as
>>> something that is vitally useful.
>>
>> What's "this"?
>
> Sorry, by "this" I mean the ability for a widget to check if there
> exists a new version of itself. I can see value in the UA doing that on
> its own, at intervals and criteria (not if I'm roaming, more often if it
> crashed recently, etc) that can be set by the user. The UA would then
> provide a consistent UI indicating that an update is available and
> getting permission from the user (or just doing it, if allowed to do so).
>
> The value in allowing authors to add <blink color='red'>Update!</blink>
> seems rather limited to me, is what I'm saying.

Ok, I'm with you now. Yes, I agree it's a bit useless. Besides, the same 
thing can be easily done with XHR if need be. I say we kill 
"checkForUpdate()" as it gives back no useful info.
Received on Monday, 6 July 2009 14:52:52 GMT

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