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RE: [Widgets] APIs and Events preference change

From: <ivan.demarino@orange-ftgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:15:29 +0100
Message-ID: <B877D90AB2240C4D84DF56169F1EAFED060F6745@ftrdmel3>
To: <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com>, <marcosc@opera.com>
Cc: <arveb@opera.com>, <art.barstow@nokia.com>, <public-webapps@w3.org>
I agree with Scott's concern.
I'm not 100% up-to-speed with the latest modification to the HTML5 specs
(if any) but I remember that this kind of "Rubyesque" way of accessing
elements in the Storage is only present into the "attached usage
examples", but there is none in the API described in the document.
So far I would avoid to implement stuff like that: in Javascript there
is nothing, grammatically speaking.
There could be a way, manipulating the Prototype object, doing things
    storageObject.setItem(key, value) {
        this.prototype.__defineGetter__(key, function() { /* CODE TO
But I don't see it as very efficient and clean.
I'm more for a "Java-ish"/classic set/get solution.

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From: public-webapps-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-webapps-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Scott Wilson
Sent: 16 March 2009 17:33
To: marcosc@opera.com
Cc: Arve Bersvendsen; Arthur Barstow; public-webapps@w3.org
Subject: Re: [Widgets] APIs and Events preference change

We've managed to implement Storage for Widget.preferences as an overlay
over the older get/set method without any problems. 

One issue though is the HTML5 doc uses some syntax that relies on a
Rubyesque method_missing capability that just isn't present in many
environments, including, notably, JavaScript.

E.g. the HTML 5 doc has this example:

 <input type="checkbox" onchange="sessionStorage.insurance = checked">

 I want insurance on this trip.

Now, we can handle this no problem:


... poses a bit more of a challenge!



On 16 Mar 2009, at 11:57, Marcos Caceres wrote:

2009/3/9 Arve Bersvendsen <arveb@opera.com>:

On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:20:25 +0100, Arthur Barstow
<art.barstow@nokia.com> wrote:

Note that there is a difference between localStorage and Storage.  I am
assuming that an implementation will place a (different) instance of a
Storage interface on the widget.preferences object. This object would
not be bound to the same storage instance as window.localStorage, and
instead have its origin set to that of the widget (whatever URI scheme
or origin we end up with once those issues are resolved), translated:
The widget interface would not end up using the same storage area.

This already seems to be permitted by the current spec, still residing
in HTML5 [1], where there are two separate Storage instances in
window.localStorage and window.sessionStorage

This distinction is useful for widgets, as you could basically set one
preference that only affects a single widget instance
(sessionStorage), while other preferences affect all widgets of a
particular class (localStorage).

Marcos Caceres
Received on Monday, 16 March 2009 18:16:42 UTC

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