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Re: [widgets] Renaming "thumbnail" to "screenshot"

From: Jere Kapyaho <jere.kapyaho@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:01:06 +0200
To: ext Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C5AE0CB2.49BB%jere.kapyaho@nokia.com>

No worries. After last weeks Widgets telcon, I came to the conclusion that
if this really is intended to be just a static image of the widget (as it
was sometime before it was deployed), then I suppose it's OK to rename it to
screenshot. That also would leave the term 'thumbnail' to mean an actual
representation of the widget that may be updated live by the widget engine.

The screenshot might not resemble the actual running widget after the end
user has downloaded, installed and ran it, but I guess it's close enough to
be used in a widget gallery (like Arve demonstrated with the Opera Widgets
site).

--Jere

On 3.2.2009 2.06, "ext Marcos Caceres" <marcosscaceres@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just realized that I accidentally only hit "reply" instead of "reply
> all" for the following email. In the hope of forwarding the
> discussion, here is my response to Jere's comments about screenshot vs
> thumbnail semantics...
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [widgets] Renaming "thumbnail" to "screenshot"
> To: Jere Kapyaho <jere.kapyaho@nokia.com>
> 
> 
> Hi Jere,
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Jere Kapyaho <jere.kapyaho@nokia.com> wrote:
>> Hi Marcos,
>> 
>> please don't rename "thumbnail" to "screenshot"... because an icon is not a
>> thumbnail is not a screenshot. I think the terminology is already quite well
>> established, and these three are all different anyway.
>> 
>> FWIW, to me the semantics break down like this:
>> 
>> "icon" -- small, representative image of application or document, used for
>> starting up or organizing
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>> "screenshot" -- an image that shows software as it was in action, typically
>> the size of the program's normal window (or a detail of it) (see [1])
> 
> This is currently what "thumbnail" is defined as in the spec. That's
> why I want to change it to screenshot!
> 
>> "thumbnail" -- small, scaled-down replica of an application, image or
>> document, typically used to save display space, so that several of these can
>> be shown side by side to get an overall view of a collection
> 
> This is certainly not what is in the spec... my concern is that this
> is closer to our definition of icon.
> 
>> So, an icon is just representative; it is not the real thing. Ideally, a
>> thumbnail would be generated live in real time, and some Widgets
>> implementations might choose to so. If the package includes a static
>> thumbnail (which is by definition a screenshot at that point), that fact
>> shouldn't prevent the implementation from generating/updating the thumbnail
>> live.
> 
> Hmm... I think we need to tighten up the terminology in the spec then.
> 
> --
> Marcos Caceres
> http://datadriven.com.au
> 
> 
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