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Next DOM3 Events Telcon (Time and Day?)

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:49:06 -0400
Message-ID: <4A29CB12.8010405@w3.org>
To: www-dom@w3.org
Hi, Folks-

I will be hosting a F2F at my house next week, but we will be 
reconvening the telcons week after next, probably on Wednesday, June 17 
or Thursday, June 18.  Either day works for me, but finding a good time 
for everyone might be challenging: we typically have attendees from 
Finland (Olli Pettay of Mozilla), from US West Coast (Travis Leithead 
and Jacob ??, of Microsoft), US East Coast (myself, and sometimes some 
government folks who are helping with testing), and now Sydney, 
Australia (Dan Danilatos, of Google Wave). [1]

Olli says:
   "For me the best days are Wednesday and Thursday, 10:00am-01:00am (EET).
   Monday and Tuesday evenings/nights are also possible."

Travis says:
   "Jacob and I are available for telecons 8-5 pm (perhaps a little
   later if needed)."

Pretty much any time on Wednesday or Thursday works for me (late 
afternoon is best).  Looking at TimeAndDate [2], it looks like 21:00 UTC 
on Wednesday might work, if Dan is a morning person (otherwise it would 
be pretty cruel to him).


The proposed agenda is (what else?) mutation events and a sane keyboard 
model.  The telcon will last one hour.  So, I would greatly appreciate 
keeping up the email dialog on mutation events (I will compile the use 
cases and requirements on the wiki, as they roll in).  It may be that we 
don't "solve" mutation events for DOM3 Events, but put together another 
dedicated spec to address the use cases in another way, and caution 
people about the costs of mutation events.

In addition, I'm hoping that we have a flowchart of keyboard event 
models by that time, for both IE (Travis and Jacob are working on this), 
and if possible, for WebKit.  We have my rough draft of an idealized 
model [3], and Olli's more accurate Gecko model [4].

Dan, or anyone on your team, or anyone at all, could you work on a 
WebKit keyboard event model flowchart?

When I get them all, I'll normalize them for easy comparison, and we can 
work to produce a unified model that works as widely as possible.  If 
anyone wants to send in addition flowcharts for other implementations 
(including mobiles), that would also be welcome.  I don't know that 
we'll be able to solve the IME issues, but if we can, we will.

[1] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=6&day=17&year=2009&p2=43&p3=101&p4=234&p5=240&iv=0
[2] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=6&day=17&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=43&p2=101&p3=234&p4=240
[3] 
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/proposals/d3e-keyflow.svg
[4] 
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/proposals/keyflow-gecko.svg


Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
Received on Saturday, 6 June 2009 01:49:22 GMT

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