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Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

From: Nikunj Mehta <nikunj.mehta@oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:38:40 -0700
Cc: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-Id: <62D405DB-38E8-4051-AC10-6DEF8D4A93A5@oracle.com>
To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
You pretty much answered all my questions. Thanks.

I would be support the charter be modified with the original text  
about storage APIs

[[
Offline APIs and Structured Storage for enabling local access to Web  
application resources when not connected to a network
]]

Nikunj
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Doug Schepers wrote:

> Hi, Nikunj-
>
> Nikunj Mehta wrote (on 4/21/09 5:44 PM):
>>  Apparently the new charter [1] that forces everyone to re-join the  
>> WG
>> also lists among its deliverables as WebStorage with the explanation
>> that WebStorage is
>>
>> "two APIs for client-side data storage in Web applications: a name- 
>> value
>> pair system, and a database system with a SQL frontend"
>>
>> Clearly, if the WD of WebStorage has in its abstract something more
>> general, the charter should not be so specific.
>
> Yes, I can see where you're coming from.
>
>
>> I now understand that this new piece of text made its way into the
>> charter recently.
>
> Yes, in the final round of revisions after the AC review, we  
> clarified some of the deliverables, and I pulled the descriptions  
> from each spec.
>
>
>> The last message I can see about charter change for
>> WebApps [1] only talks about adding WebWorkers. Apparently other  
>> changes
>> were also made, but no diff provided to members about the charter  
>> change
>> proposal.
>
> Here is the original charter:
>  http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/charter/charter2008.html
>
> And here is the new charter:
>  http://www.w3.org/2009/04/webapps-charter
>
> In the original charter, what is now called Web Storage did not yet  
> have a formal name, but was called out:
> [[
> Offline APIs and Structured Storage for enabling local access to Web  
> application resources when not connected to a network
> ]]
>
> So, it was already in the charter, but only named recently when the  
> WebApps WG agreed to publish the spec (after the first draft of new  
> charter was written).
>
>
>> Can you throw some light on this?
>>
>> Ian Hickson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Nikunj Mehta wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's what Oracle would like to see in the abstract:
>>>>
>>>> This specification defines two APIs for persistent data storage  
>>>> in Web
>>>> clients: one for accessing key-value pair data and another for  
>>>> accessing
>>>> structured data.
>>>
>>> Done.
>
> Your request to change this (and Ian's subsequent change) came after  
> the charter was in its final form that was approved by W3M (as you  
> can see by the timestamp at the bottom of the final version) [1].   
> So. it's really a matter of unfortunate timing.  Normally, such  
> changes to the charter after the fact are frowned upon, but under  
> the circumstances, I will see if it is acceptable to amend this,  
> since the WebApps WG seems to agree that more general wording is  
> preferred.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/webapps-charter
>
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
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