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Re: Regarding DOM 3 Tests Format

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:01:02 -0700
To: Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com>
Cc: "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>
Message-id: <1EC93F6D-0032-422B-993F-5463E516A39F@apple.com>

On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:

> Hey Chaals, What makes you think that your pious and arrogant attitude
> makes you a moderator?  You have no right to dictate what I can say.

The fact that Chaals is a co-Chair of the Web Applications working  
group makes him a moderator of this mailing list, whatever you may  
think of his attitude. <http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/charter/>

As co-Chair, it his responsibility to ensure the W3C Process is  
followed. The Individual Participation Criteria in the charter  
require, among other things, "Social competence in one's role". <http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#ParticipationCriteria 

Your repeated rudeness, hostility, personal attacks on Working Group  
members and lack of constructive contribution demonstrate a  
significant lack of social competence. I commend Chaals on his  
decision to help you stick to the Individual Participation Criteria.  
Should you continue to fail to do so, I hope he will take appropriate  
measures to keep you from disrupting the Working Group further.


> And this:
> Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com>
> cc	Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>,
> Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>,
> "mike@w3.org" <mike@w3.org>
> Is *not* "Private mail".  Only you would know why you mailed multiple
> people and called it "private". I'm putting this on the list so we can
> see what kind of person "Chaals" is.
> It looks like you took it upon yourself to go out of your way to
> describe me as inappropriate, accusatory, counter-productive and
> attacking. You then asked me to stick to "demonstrable" facts.
> We don't really know why you did this.   I pointed out the OP's
> mistakes, asked him some questions, and followed with my opinion of
> the relevance of YUI Test (Re Hallvord's Comments).  Nobody should
> discourage code reviews. Especially not for code that is supposed to
> be taken seriously.
> Garrett
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Regarding DOM 3 Tests Format
> To: Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com>
> Cc: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, Doug Schepers
> <schepers@w3.org>, "mike@w3.org" <mike@w3.org>
> Private mail:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:56:35 +0200, Garrett Smith
> <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Carmelo Montanez  
>> <carmelo@nist.gov> wrote:
>>> Hi Folks:
>>> I am getting ready to submit a number of tests and wanted to get  
>>> your
>>> feedback on format.  We already agreed
>>> on a template a few weeks back.  This follows on that format.   
>>> Just wanted
>>> to get your view before I go forward.
>>> See attached files.
>> You obviously did not try running this in any browser.
> Hi Garrett,
> please refrain from making assumptions about what people do. Opening a
> mail with an accusatory or attacking tone of this nature is
> counter-productive, and therefore inappropriate for this working
> group.
> Please keep your comments to demonstrable facts and a more positive
> tone in future.
> thanks
> Chaals
> --
> Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
>   je parle franšais -- hablo espa˝ol -- jeg lŠrer norsk
> http://my.opera.com/chaals   Try Opera 9.5: http://www.opera.com
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