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RE: <New: Tracking Issues in XHR that we raised>RE: <Was: Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

From: Sunava Dutta <sunavad@windows.microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:26 -0700
To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
CC: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Zhenbin Xu <Zhenbin.Xu@microsoft.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>, IE8 Core AJAX SWAT Team <ieajax@microsoft.com>
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Thanks. I think we will consider the tracker for future threads and also use the F2F. Meanwhile, Zhenbin has answered Jonas.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Schepers [mailto:schepers@w3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:57 PM
> To: Sunava Dutta
> Cc: Jonas Sicking; Zhenbin Xu; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8
> Core AJAX SWAT Team
> Subject: Re: <New: Tracking Issues in XHR that we raised>RE: <Was:
> Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC
> Test Suite
>
> Hi, Sunava-
>
> Sunava Dutta wrote (on 6/19/08 10:47 PM):
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jonas@sicking.cc]
> >>
> >> I do agree we have debate, I don't agree we have agreement on that
> >> throwing an exception is the right thing to do.
> >>
> >> The argument for returning null is that it makes for a cleaner API,
> >> exceptions should only be thrown in exceptional circumstances. And
> >> based
> >> on available data it doesn't seem like sites currently care one way
> or
> >> another, so I think we should go for the cleaner API.
> >>
> >> What is the argument for throwing an exception?
> >
> > [Sunava Dutta] I can't believe you asked that question after all
> > the discussions that just happened on that with Ian, Zhenbin and you.
> > With all due respect, is this an 'engage and lock' until someone gets
> > frustrated and quits strategy or is there something outside of
> technical
> > arguments that Mozilla is concerned about? -:)
>
> I don't think that's a productive or adequate reply to what is a simple
> question (and it doesn't help the tone here).
>
> Jonas (who is, in my experience, a problem-solver, not a drama diva)
> has
> clearly stated the position for returning null (regardless of the
> merits
> of that position).
>
> The most straightforward reply would be to simply state (or restate, if
> it's been stated) the counter-argument, and for the WG to meet to
> decide
> on it, via telcon or F2F.  Email is not the best place for persistent
> atomic pros and cons, so I suggest that you either outline the opposing
> arguments in Tracker, or on the wiki:
>    http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/XHR

>
> That way we can look at the arguments dispassionately, side by side,
> and
> decide on the merits.
>
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Team Contact, WebApps, SVG, and CDF

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