W3C

Web API WG Teleconference
10 Apr 2006

Attendees

Present
Hixie, Dave, Doug, Chaals, Stéphane, Jonas
Regrets
IanD, Christophe, Robin, Anne
Chair
Chaals
Scribe
Dave

Contents


Group Misc

Window and XHR publication status (Published - good job folks)

who is on the hook for persistent storage? Ian (not here)

DOM3 XPath - will let you know this week.

Drag and Drop - due in April with internal draft this week.

Chaals is inclined to schedule this for publication in May.

DOM 3 Events

Issue-56? (Mouse wheel)

Doug has posted his concerns with hixie's proposal

Wouldn't mind two different wheel events

No answers to Stefans question to the MMI WG

<ssire> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2006Feb/0131

on multiple device issue

<ssire> my suggestion would be to postpone multiple input devicves

<ssire> to a future input configuration language or so

Chaals proposes to delay issue 56 and 55

In regards to HTML Events, there was no objection to genericizing specific events where appropriate.

JS: On new track pads, you can use two fingers to scroll in any direction.

There is also a new mouse with a track pad on top ...

There are also track balls than can be mapped as a pointer or a scrollbar

with behavior changed through pressing a button.

Chaals ponders about cutting the call short, but first asks if we are all in agreement on issue 59?

Issue 59 - window.history -> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/59

should the window spec include history? No one objected.

JS: It is a very small addition.

DS: ideally, history ought to take into account AJAX

DR: also states within pages, e.g. slides in a presentation

<chaals> Proposed resolution is that we have history as a number.

<chaals> ACTION: Doug to raise an issue on history and Ajax

DS: we should address history and AJAX at some point.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Raise an issue on history and Ajax [on Doug Schepers - due 2006-04-17].

DR: what about states within a page?

<chaals> RESOLUTION: We have window.history as a number as currently implemented - this closes ISSUE-59

<chaals> RATIONALE: This is implemented interoperably, is reasonably useful, even if it doesn't solve the universe's problems

<chaals> DR: Do operations on history reload the page.

DR: interoperability problems today with history operations, some reload the page some don't

IH: you can't rely on caching
... the spec has to be very clear what happens if it does reload

<chaals> RESOLUTION: We don't require reloading or not in using history.

<chaals> RESOLUTION: It's too hard a requirement to implement that consistently

<Hixie> well, that's not the reason to not require it; the reason to not require it is that some UAs simply can't (no memory, etc)

DR: what about behavior with fragment histories?

Seems pretty reasonable to cover ...

IH: no point in reloading for jumps to same page as already in memory. This case is covered in WhatWG Web Apps 1 draft

<sicking> RESOLUTION: the window 1.0 spec can include description of what happens when the 'back' url is simply a different id-fragment in the same page. I.e. that scrolling rather then reloading should take place

<sicking> RATIONALE: it is not a hard requirement for UAs and it is useful

Issue 75 Is Method Case sensitive -> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/75

RESOLUTION: method will be case sensitive. That closes ISSUE-75

e.g. post is not the same as POST

<chaals> RATIONALE: Because the HTTP spec says sop and it makes sense to do it like that

Issue 66 null defaultView required? -> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/66

<chaals> adjourned - go do action items and track issues to resolution so you can mention it next time.

Summary of Action Items


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