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Re: ISSUE-30: mousewheel event

From: Anthony Ettinger <aettinger@sdsualumni.org>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:16:11 -0900
Message-ID: <3fc6b2fb0602252216m700208d4pc0d4284ef23e9721@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Matthew Raymond" <mattraymond@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, "Web APIs WG" <public-webapi@w3.org>
fwiw, mousewheel is hardcoding the device-type, probably not a good idea.
"DOMScrollWheel" or "scroll". It's basically the same as using the up/down

On 2/25/06, Matthew Raymond <mattraymond@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Jim Ley wrote:
> > "Matthew Raymond" <mattraymond@earthlink.net>
> >>   I'm thinking that the best name would be "mousescroll". That said,
> >> using "mousewheel" or "DOMMouseScroll" would allow for faster adoption.
> >> Much as I don't like IE, I'd admit that "mousewheel" is the easier of
> >> the two to remember.
> >
> > MouseScroll is a bad name too, for mice with multiple scrollwheels, not
> all
> > of them generally scroll, nor is there always an inherent relationship
> > between wheels and scrolling, just a common one.
>    If the wheel doesn't scroll, why would you want it to trigger the
> event in the first place??? For instance, I have a button on the side of
> my mouse that's mapped by the mouse settings to the "middle button". My
> mouse doesn't actually have a middle button, because I have a scroll
> wheel there instead (although, technically that could be used as a
> button as well). However, if I wanted that side button to do something
> else, I could just change my mouse settings. I could configure any of my
> mouse buttons to do anything from "Undo" to "Explore My Computer". This
> is an input device configuration issue, not a browser issue. If I
> configure my mouse wheel to be an "Undo" button, it should trigger a
> "mousewheel"-type event in the first place.
> > A less device specific
> > name would lose the mouse not the wheel, so something like jogwheel I
> guess,
> > but such a name would be silly
>    That doesn't really make sense. The prefix "mouse" is commonly used
> for events involving a pointing device, and the event in question occurs
> to the element under the pointer device, so it's clear that the first
> half of this event should be "mouse".
>    As for "wheel" versus "scroll", I think "scroll" is more
> device-independent, but I don't really care enough to argue about it...
> > Like Ian and Maciej, I say mousewheel is the only logical option right
> now.
>    Yeah, it shouldn't be much trouble to have Mozilla use "mousewheel".
> There's already a bug for it:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111647
>    We still need to reconcile the event property names and scale. IE
> uses "wheelDelta", while Mozilla uses "detail", plus the values returned
> by the two are something like this:
>    IEEvent.wheelDelta = MozEvent.detail * -40
>    So I guess there are still some technical matters to debate.

Anthony Ettinger
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