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Re: XSS mitigation in browsers

From: Collin Jackson <collin.jackson@sv.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:42:41 -0800
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=pqGHUq3+Qvax-EQ50y-VTSpzY1Xbza2RXB5bO@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Steingruebl, Andy" <asteingruebl@paypal-inc.com>
Cc: Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf@coredump.cx>, Brandon Sterne <bsterne@mozilla.com>, Adam Barth <w3c@adambarth.com>, "public-web-security@w3.org" <public-web-security@w3.org>, Sid Stamm <sid@mozilla.com>, Lucas Adamski <ladamski@mozilla.com>
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Steingruebl, Andy <
asteingruebl@paypal-inc.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michal Zalewski [mailto:lcamtuf@coredump.cx]
> >
> > Possibly, but IIRC, this does not happen today with <img>, <script>, etc.
> IIRC,
> > Any codes other than 30x and 401 (and possibly other obscure cases) are
> > essentially treated as 200. I suppose this is in line with the tradition
> of
> > ignoring other HTTP information in these cases (Content-Type, Content-
> > Disposition), although there are some efforts to improve at least that
> last
> > part.
>
> Any history on why this is the case?  And, what would break if this
> behavior changed?
>
> For example, we've never seen a case in recent history where any browser
> will execute the embedded script in your example when the page is a 302 for
> example, and yet some vuln scanners still complain about this issue.
>
> I realize lots of people have rich 404-pages, but how much would we really
> break if we turned that off? No "dynamic content" on a 404? Or, some other
> heuristic which covers your include case safely, but doesn't impact people's
> existing 404-pages that embed content.


I've personally worked on several large web sites that included JavaScript
in 404 replies. The semantically correct thing to do when you have a
nonexistent URL is to return a 404. When this happens, the user probably
wants to use the navigation menu or search box to get where they're going,
and navigation menus and search boxes are often enhanced with JavaScript.
Received on Monday, 24 January 2011 18:45:31 GMT

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