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RE: Surprised

From: Scott Cadillac <scott@xmlx.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:31:25 -0600
To: "'W3C Public Web Plugins List'" <public-web-plugins@w3.org>
Message-ID: <007601c373f5$0f21a1f0$5400a8c0@mercury>

Speculation has been outweighing hard details here for sure. What else are
we to do while we twiddle our thumbs waiting for more useful information.

Of course, spreading additional comments that are not funded in fact doesn't
help either.

> Microsoft is not measured on the quality of their
> products or services; they are measured on the ability
> to interact and make use of the personal computer
> which they have dominated through predatory means
> (e.g. you can't buy a PC from Dell -- or others -- w/o
> a MSFT operating system installed).

http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/index.html

http://www.dell.com/us/en/biz/topics/linux_linuxhome.htm

And isn't the one of the biggest topics of Linux evangelists, concerning the
wide-spread adoption of Linux - is that it won't happen until an Open Source
comparable/competitive/alternative version of MS Office can be build for
Linux? 

Doesn't that say something about the quality of some of their products? 

And now please don't start on how "evil" they are:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Microsoft+donates+health

When it comes down to choosing between people and a Software brand - I'll
choose people every time. Who else gives away cash like this?

Surprised indeed....


---
I really think the usefulness of this list would be better served if we
could keep politics out of it. 

More technical details from W3C, Microsoft or Macromedia or anybody sure
would be helpful anytime now....

Flame me if you wish.

Scott Cadillac,
XML-Extranet - http://xmlx.ca
403-281-6090 - scott@xmlx.ca
Well-formed Development
--
Extranet solutions using C# .NET, Witango, MSIE and XML


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-web-plugins-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-web-plugins-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of D Goneit
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:52 PM
> To: tom poe
> Cc: public-web-plugins@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Surprised
> 
> 
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I don't consider Microsoft's patent portfolio to be
> daunting in the least; there are many other companies
> with much more significant portfolios -- note IBM's
> recent use of its portfolio in the SCO fiasco.
> 
> My point is that if a small company or individual
> inventor creates a new "mousetrap" that is
> sufficiently compelling in its function to gain wide
> adoption in the marketplace (e.g. web browser
> plug-ins), then the marketplace has a means to obviate
> the 95%+ market control of a monopolist (e.g.
> Microsoft).
> 
> Microsoft is not measured on the quality of their
> products or services; they are measured on the ability
> to interact and make use of the personal computer
> which they have dominated through predatory means
> (e.g. you can't buy a PC from Dell -- or others -- w/o
> a MSFT operating system installed).
> 
> I have yet to see MSFT use their portfolio of patents
> to control the marketplace and given their lackluster
> performance in invention, I do not see them doing it
> in the future; why try to dominate through patents
> when you can dominate more easily through predatory
> practices?
> 
> --- tom poe <tompoe@amihost.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, D:  Would you feel the same way, if the table
> > were level, and MS
> > didn't have all their patents to stifle innovation,
> > and they were left
> > to compete in the market place without them, relying
> > only on their
> > quality of product and service?
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Poe
> > Open Studios
> > Reno, NV
> > http://www.studioforrecording.org/
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 14:44, D Goneit wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am suprised at the amount of speculation on this
> > > list; apparently few have taken the time to read
> > the
> > > patent in detail or the IEEE Visualization paper.
> > > 
> > > >From my reading of those documents, I think the
> > claim
> > > language is straight-forward and clearly
> > > differentiates this invention from the earlier
> > work
> > > that has been discussed.
> > > 
> > > I do not believe patents, software or not, are
> > > inherently bad.  In fact, I believe they are the
> > best
> > > defense the technical community has to ensure that
> > > innovation continues against the hegemony of the
> > > WINTEL duopoloy.
> > > 
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