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RE: Potential Partial Solution

From: Scott Cadillac <scott@xmlx.ca>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:57:49 -0600
To: <public-web-plugins@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000101c36e4e$adcb1d60$5400a8c0@mercury>

I hear ya...

But if you don't have any dishes left to eat off, how are you going to feed
yourself?

What about a move in the "opposite" direction? And deliberately ignore the
ruling?

Currently only Microsoft is being forced to comply, but I'm sure other
Browser makers will follow.

But nobody is legally forcing rulings on Web Developers like me - what we if
we just don't change our code in protest?

MSIE has the biggest market share - so the web would be broken, forcing many
people to NOT download the newest Browsers. Would this potentially
circumvent the ruling?

This is how people speak out - and THEN maybe the legitimacy of the Patent
Office would finally be called into question.

Just an idea..........

Scott Cadillac,
XML-Extranet - http://xmlx.ca
403-281-6090 - scott@xmlx.ca
Well-formed Development
--
Extranet solutions using C# .NET, Witango, MSIE and XML


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-web-plugins-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-web-plugins-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jake Robb
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:38 AM
> To: W3C Public Web Plugins List
> Subject: Re: Potential Partial Solution
> 
> 
> 
> Christian and I just had an off-list discussion regarding his 
> suggestion.  I
> am now under the impression that it was meant as a way to 
> show the world
> (and more specifically, US lawmakers) that the current patent 
> system needs
> work, and only as a poor solution to the actual plugin problem.
> 
> His suggestion would effectively create two mutually exclusive and
> incompatible World Wide Webs.  I think we can all agree that 
> it's not a good
> solution from that standpoint, but that was the point of the 
> suggestion in
> the first place.
> 
> If you're asked to wash the dishes, and you don't like doing 
> dishes, break
> some dishes.  The person asking you to wash the dishes may rethink the
> original decision that you should be the one washing dishes.
> 
> -Jake
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Cadillac wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Sorry, I just can't see this as a practical idea.
> > 
> > I build business applications for Intranets, where I use 
> MSIE exclusively as
> > the client.
> > 
> > As much as I love MSIE and all it's well supported 
> technologies, this would
> > wipe out many smaller businesses and ultimately stifle innovation.
> > 
> > Down the road, I'm thinking the fall-out from this Patent 
> case will equally
> > affect MSIE and other more rigidly standard based browsers 
> like Mozilla.
> > 
> > But Microsoft is the only one with the resources for the 
> new development
> > that's needed - who's going to pay these other developers 
> to collaborate on
> > such an effort? Likely nobody.
> > 
> > It's too obvious who would dominate the North American 
> market - and the rest
> > of the world would have nothing (or a patchy beta at best).
> > 
> > I see this kind of approach as bad for everyone.
> > 
> > Scott Cadillac,
> > XML-Extranet - http://xmlx.ca
> > 403-281-6090 - scott@xmlx.ca
> > Well-formed Development
> > --
> > Extranet solutions using C# .NET, Witango, MSIE and XML
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-web-plugins-request@w3.org
> >> [mailto:public-web-plugins-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
> >> SerpentMage (Christian Gross)
> >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:45 AM
> >> To: W3C Public Web Plugins List
> >> Subject: Re: Potential Partial Solution
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Jake Robb wrote:
> >> 
> >>> SerpentMage (Christian Gross) wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> 
> >>>> However, the community has at hand a perfect opportunity 
> to make a
> >>>> statement.  If all the browser software vendors decided 
> to make one
> >>>> browser for the American market and another browser for the
> >> rest of the
> >>>> world, then the issue could settle itself.
> >>>>    
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I don't even know where to begin arguing.  This is not a 
> possibility.
> >>>  
> >>> 
> >> Interesting....
> >> 
> >> Christian Gross
> >> 
> > 
> 
Received on Friday, 29 August 2003 12:58:31 GMT

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