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Re: Notifications - Mac OSX 10.8

From: Dub <dubcanada@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:29:18 -0400
Message-ID: <CAK4iz+3uyfeXfwOjCcbT4PTCq3Nu-z63CtLJBoX-CtTikCjgzQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Andrew Wilson <atwilson@google.com>
Cc: public-web-notification <public-web-notification@w3.org>
Someones a little hostile... who said Mac OSX was my favorite platform
lol... It's a people are willing to accept that on Linux certain things
don't work properly. It's part of the OS. On a mac this is not such a
concern. Anyways I'm not getting into arguing with you about the specifics
of different OS's you've already made yourself clear.

All I was asking is for a person, such as yourself to point me in the
direction of such a thread as I spent a while searching before I randomly
made a new thread. And since you clearly have no desire to do such and
instead choose to send back enlarged bold bullet points to make a point
which I already know even more obvious I shall move on.

Good day.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Andrew Wilson <atwilson@google.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Steven Verbeek <dubcanada@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Are the benefits of having an icon really that important that we as
>> willing to have a fragmented API?
>>
>>
> Again, we've already discussed the fact that not every platform will
> support all aspects of the API. I would strongly urge you to review the
> archives if you'd like to understand the arguments already presented. As
> far as I can tell, there is no new argument being presented here, other
> than "unsupported functionality is fine for other platforms, but not for
> ${MY_FAVORITE_PLATFORM}", so there's no reason to reopen the spec at this
> stage.
>
> I'd like to further point out that the spec already explicitly
> acknowledges that a given notification platform may not support icons, so
> this is not an unexpected development. For example, in section 5, where the
> description of the Notification() constructor procedure is enumerated:
>
> 9. *If the notification platform supports icons*, the user agent may
> start fetching<http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/fetching-resources.html#fetch>
>  notification's icon URL <http://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/#icon-url> at
> this point.
>
>
>
>> The some flavours of Linux are expected, even things like drag and drop
>> support don't work on every single Linux. And Mac is probably only like 5%
>> of the community, however windows users have never experienced
>> notifications like those before.
>>
>
>> I kind of end to agree with apple when a notification comes in for a
>> website, and I'm not focused on the browser. Does it make sense to show
>> some random icon or the browser. I uses for gmail it may make sense to show
>> the gmail icon, but what if you have the gmail application on your
>> computer. Now your really confused.
>>
>> I could not find the thread you are asking about, could you link me?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 2012-11-19, at 5:41 AM, Andrew Wilson <atwilson@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> We've had discussions about this in the past, and the consensus we
>> arrived at was that we should not remove functionality from the API
>> to accommodate the limitations of a single platform. For example, the
>> notification system on some flavors of Linux do not support clicking on
>> notifications, and yet we continue to support adding onclick handlers to
>> the notifications.
>>
>> Please also review previous discussions on the list re: accessibility and
>> icons, as I think they apply in this case as well (the value of providing
>> an icon in the API even though not all platforms may support it).
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Dub <dubcanada@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> According to Notification Center you cannot pass a custom icon to the
>>> notification center, it will show the icon of the application making the
>>> notification.
>>>
>>> That being said, I believe we should remove the icon from the
>>> notification draft, unless we can convince Apple to add in the ability to
>>> specific custom icons, this isn't possible to do on Mac 10.8+
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>
Received on Monday, 19 November 2012 14:29:46 GMT

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