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Re: Notifications - Mac OSX 10.8

From: Andrew Wilson <atwilson@google.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:16:30 +0100
Message-ID: <CAArhhist4rc18gc8h-zE30YUH5=a1VF1vVPmZe+31JVx1r=ASQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steven Verbeek <dubcanada@gmail.com>
Cc: public-web-notification <public-web-notification@w3.org>
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Steven Verbeek <dubcanada@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are the benefits of having an icon really that important that we as
> willing to have a fragmented API?
Again, we've already discussed the fact that not every platform will
support all aspects of the API. I would strongly urge you to review the
archives if you'd like to understand the arguments already presented. As
far as I can tell, there is no new argument being presented here, other
than "unsupported functionality is fine for other platforms, but not for
${MY_FAVORITE_PLATFORM}", so there's no reason to reopen the spec at this

I'd like to further point out that the spec already explicitly acknowledges
that a given notification platform may not support icons, so this is not an
unexpected development. For example, in section 5, where the description of
the Notification() constructor procedure is enumerated:

9. *If the notification platform supports icons*, the user agent may start
 notification's icon URL <http://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/#icon-url> at
this point.

> The some flavours of Linux are expected, even things like drag and drop
> support don't work on every single Linux. And Mac is probably only like 5%
> of the community, however windows users have never experienced
> notifications like those before.

> I kind of end to agree with apple when a notification comes in for a
> website, and I'm not focused on the browser. Does it make sense to show
> some random icon or the browser. I uses for gmail it may make sense to show
> the gmail icon, but what if you have the gmail application on your
> computer. Now your really confused.
> I could not find the thread you are asking about, could you link me?
> Steve
> On 2012-11-19, at 5:41 AM, Andrew Wilson <atwilson@google.com> wrote:
> We've had discussions about this in the past, and the consensus we arrived
> at was that we should not remove functionality from the API
> to accommodate the limitations of a single platform. For example, the
> notification system on some flavors of Linux do not support clicking on
> notifications, and yet we continue to support adding onclick handlers to
> the notifications.
> Please also review previous discussions on the list re: accessibility and
> icons, as I think they apply in this case as well (the value of providing
> an icon in the API even though not all platforms may support it).
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Dub <dubcanada@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Guys,
>> According to Notification Center you cannot pass a custom icon to the
>> notification center, it will show the icon of the application making the
>> notification.
>> That being said, I believe we should remove the icon from the
>> notification draft, unless we can convince Apple to add in the ability to
>> specific custom icons, this isn't possible to do on Mac 10.8+
>> - Steve
Received on Monday, 19 November 2012 13:17:01 UTC

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