[GGIE] Call minutes - January 14, 2015

Hello all,

Thank you for your time on the GGIE Task Force [1] call yesterday. Here
are the minutes:
http://www.w3.org/2015/01/14-webtv-minutes.html

and pasted in full below. If your name is not on the list of attendees
please let me know.

And thank you to Bill Rose for volunteering to scribe.

Daniel Davis
W3C

[1] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF

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                  Web & TV IG — GGIE Task Force call

14 Jan 2015

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/14-webtv-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz Ashimura, François Daoust, Daniel Davis, Alex
          Deacon, Glenn Deen, Yosuke Funahashi, Paul Higgs, Bin
          Hu, Mateusz Kupczyk, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux, Nilo Mitra,
          Giuseppe Pascale, Cyril Rickelton-Abdi, Joe Steele, Mark
          Vickers, Daniel Wester, Mike Wilkinson, Andrew
          Zamler-Carhart, Jian Zhao

   Regrets
   Chair
          Glenn Deen

   Scribe
          Bill Rose

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Roll call
         2. [5]Agenda Bash
         3. [6]Review: GGIE Mission – Scope – Deliverables –
            Timeline
         4. [7]Drafting a Request For Input
         5. [8]Recurring Meeting Schedule
         6. [9]Future Face 2 Face discussion
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
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Roll call

Agenda Bash

   <ddavis> GGIE Wiki:
   [11]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF

   <giuseppe> Agenda:
   [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015J
   an/0002.html

     [12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0002.html

   There were no additions to the agenda

Review: GGIE Mission – Scope – Deliverables – Timeline

   Glenn Deen reviewed the issues captured in the GGIE RFI that
   was distributed

   Discussed the idea of a content ID that will accompany content
   from end to end

   Glenn noted core mission is to look at the end-2-end content
   ecosystem from creation through distribution to discovery and
   consumption using the internet for delivery for all
   professional and non-professional content

   Ecosystem covers scopes addressed by numerous groups and SDOs,
   none of which individually covers the E2E ecosystem

   Explore use cases as to how the content would traverse the
   ecosystem identifying potential gaps in the standards currently
   in place or under development

   Deliverables

   Rank the use cases

   Document the highest priority use cases

   Document the requirements based on the selected use cases

   Note: GGIE will not write standards, only document the
   requirements and determine where the necessary standards
   development would best fit

   Work with GGIE members to propose the work to those groups

   Glenn will work with members to ensure we limit the tasks being
   undertaken so they can be completed in time for the TPAC face
   to face meeting in Japan in October.

   <ddavis> TPAC 2015: 26-30 October 2015 - Sapporo, Japan

   Glenn explained the timeline for the task:

   - Q1/Q2: Begin with developing use cases, prioritize use cases

   - June-July: begin the discussion of the Gap Analysis of high
   priority use cases

   - Aug-Oct: Prepare recommendations for new work in SDOs based
   on gap analysis

   - October: Deliver to TPAC

   - TPAC: Achieve consensus on the work

   <joesteele> seems reasonable

   <giuseppe> Timeline:
   [13]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Timeline

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Timeline

   Focus on recommendations to SDOs should include how the work
   would fit into their current work/scope/standards and what is
   needed to ensure the results into the broader ecosystem

   Will need outreach to these SDOs from GGIE members. May also
   need to outreach to others that are involved in these SDOs if
   we do not have adequate representation there.

   Due to the differences between SDO “cultures” Glenn asked for
   patience from GGIE members with others that may have different
   expectations on the GGIE calls

   Policy: Glenn noted we are working with the WEB TV IG public
   list where members can post their questions and ideas. Glen
   noted that everything is public on this list. All posted
   material is archived and publically viewable.

   There is a members only list as well but this should not be
   used for most discussions

Drafting a Request For Input

   Glenn suggested creating a request for GGIE members and other
   groups to describe the type of use cases we are looking for and
   request submissions of use cases.

   Action Item: Glenn will put together a proposed draft and
   distribute to members

   Goal for first deliverable in 1 month – review and edit on the
   1/28/15 call

   Action Item – All members: Review draft and comment. Comment:
   Post comments/hold discussions on mailing list on the draft.
   Will help participants who may not be able to be on calls. Can
   provide draft in Word format. Short discussions can use
   email/free text to distribute and comment.

   Glenn asked if use of GitHub would be useful? Response – can
   try but may not be suitable for discussion/comment on draft.

   Mark Vickers: Would not suggest starting a new method to
   comment, etc. Suggest we stay with the Wiki unless it proves to
   be unworkable. Suggest we also provide specific requests for
   input from other groups once we have some concrete items for
   them to comment on e.g. Use Cases.

   Glenn proposed hybrid version for working with other groups –
   don't “beat the bushes” right now but GGIE participants could
   review work they are aware of in other groups they work with
   and informally discuss GGIE's work where appropriate with those
   groups. Decision: This is a good idea. Decision: Start with
   Wiki for circulating use cases in usual format for discussion
   and explore one or two examples.

   Guiseppe: Does Glenn have any potential initial use cases that
   can be distributed as a starting point

   Glenn is interested in Methods for identifying content for
   standardized tracking and discovering content through
   capture/editing/tracking/delivery

   Mark Vickers: Standardizing UHD format

   Glenn: Often jump into streaming use case. Capture/edit use
   case often gets ignored. Would like to see use cases on this
   subject early on.

Recurring Meeting Schedule

   Every other Wednesday, 4:00 PM UTC

   Next call January 28, 4:00 PM UTC

   <ddavis> Might be tricky for people in Asia

   Glenn asked if the group would prefer an alternating schedule
   to better accommodate members calling in from Asia?

   <n67913> I prefer to keep one time each meeting.

   <NiloM> +1

   Decision: Will keep the Wed/4:00 UTC for now. Will revisit the
   schedule in late February.

Future Face 2 Face discussion

   Target date: TPAC, October 20, 2015, Japan

   Goal is to deliver the first results of this groups work at the
   TPAC

   Glenn noted that GGIE may benefit from periodic face to face
   meetings (March/April/May time frame) meetings, perhaps
   coexistent with other meetings that a number of GGIE members
   will already be attending – potentially W3C mini-TPAC, Paris in
   week of May 7th.

   <azamlerc> Paris is good for me! ;-)

   <joesteele> +1 to Paris

   <cyrilra> I second Paris in May

   Note: GGIE meetings will be open to W3C members and invited
   guests

   <n67913> here are use cases from the Media APIs Task Force:
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases

   [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

   [End of minutes]
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