- From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:38:11 -0700
- To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Cc: "public-web-and-tv@w3.org" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Hi Silvia, As suggested during the call, the objective is to document the caption/subtitling ecosystem, using these diagrams as well as others as starting point. Looking forward to your input and participation. Best, -- Pierre On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. No surprises there (except that WebVTT is completely missing > from the pictures). > I guess somebody needs to create a picture for how it works with > native Web content through Web CMSes. > > Silvia. > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux > <pal@sandflow.com> wrote: >> Hi Silvia, >> >> Below are two that come to mind: >> >> http://tech.ebu.ch/ebu-tt >> https://www.smpte.org/publications/wallcharts >> >> Best, >> >> -- Pierre >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sorry I wasn't able to join this morning. Family commitments. >>> >>> Someone mentioned a link to the process in dock captions end up on the web. >>> Could you share the link? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Silvia. >>> >>> On 12 Jul 2013 07:57, "Daniel Davis" <ddavis@w3.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Available at: >>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html >>>> >>>> Also as text below. >>>> >>>> Thank you to Kaz for the note-taking hand-holding and tidying up. >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> [1]W3C >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ >>>> >>>> - DRAFT - >>>> >>>> Web and TV IG - Timed Text TF Call >>>> >>>> 11 Jul 2013 >>>> >>>> [2]Agenda >>>> >>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5 >>>> >>>> See also: [3]IRC log >>>> >>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-irc >>>> >>>> Attendees >>>> >>>> Present >>>> Kaz, Daniel, Graham, Pierre, Glenn, Mark, Mike >>>> (Observer) >>>> >>>> Regrets >>>> Chair >>>> Pierre >>>> >>>> Scribe >>>> ddavis >>>> >>>> Contents >>>> >>>> * [4]Topics >>>> 1. [5]Daniel is joining >>>> 2. [6]Input to Timed Text WG charter revision process >>>> 3. [7]Improve the structure of Timed_Text_Efforts >>>> 4. [8]Ecosystem drawing >>>> 5. [9]Next call >>>> * [10]Summary of Action Items >>>> __________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> <kaz> kaz: ok to invite Mike Dolan to this call? >>>> >>>> <kaz> pal: ok >>>> >>>> <kaz> (Mike's participation is approved) >>>> >>>> Daniel is joining >>>> >>>> <kaz> ddavis: 50% Team Contact :) >>>> >>>> <Mark_Vickers> Welcome, Daniel. Glad to have you with us! >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Input to Timed Text WG charter revision process >>>> >>>> <pal> >>>> [11]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/TTWG_Consensus_Input >>>> >>>> [11] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/TTWG_Consensus_Input >>>> >>>> <scribe> scribenick: ddavis >>>> >>>> <pal> proposed additional text at >>>> [12]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5#P >>>> roposed_Agenda >>>> >>>> [12] >>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5#Proposed_Agenda >>>> >>>> pal: I'm going to add this proposed text to the Consensus Input >>>> now >>>> ... The change is now added (as point 5) >>>> ... Something that was not perhaps clear is that the Web & TV >>>> IG was supporting the addition of WebVTT deliverables to the >>>> TTWG deliverables >>>> ... so maybe there should be a sentence added to that effect. >>>> ... Showing that we support WebVTT as part of the deliverables >>>> for the Timed Text WG. >>>> >>>> <kaz> Mark_Vickers: good place to do that >>>> >>>> pal: Again, I'm going to make this addition to the Consensus >>>> Input now. >>>> ... Has now been added to the paragraph before the numbered >>>> items. >>>> ... If there are no objections, I'll post this back to the >>>> Interest Group reflector >>>> ... and hopefully the IG can then forward this to W3C Team. >>>> ... Thank you - I think this closes one of our work items. >>>> >>>> <pal> next agenda topic: >>>> [13]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Efforts >>>> >>>> [13] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Efforts >>>> >>>> <scribe> ACTION: pal to post the Consensus Input to the >>>> Interest Group reflector [recorded in >>>> [14]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html#action01] >>>> >>>> <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Post the Consensus Input to the >>>> Interest Group reflector [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due >>>> 2013-07-18]. >>>> >>>> Improve the structure of Timed_Text_Efforts >>>> >>>> pal: There has been the suggestion that this wiki page could be >>>> better organised. >>>> >>>> Mark_Vickers: I have some ideas and would be happy to work with >>>> you offline >>>> ... to update this page. >>>> >>>> mike: It seems there's a tangle in this process. >>>> >>>> pal: Only members can edit the wiki. >>>> >>>> Mark_Vickers: I'll push to get that resolved so that I can edit >>>> it. >>>> >>>> mike: We have some private email with ideas that could really >>>> improve this page. >>>> >>>> pal: Thanks - I'm happy to help as well. >>>> >>>> Ecosystem drawing >>>> >>>> pal: Next item is "ecosystem drawing" >>>> ... How do all those captions out there end up on the web, etc? >>>> ... I put up a link to an overview of the caption workflow that >>>> EBU and others use. >>>> ... It might be good for this group to create a similar >>>> illustration of how timed text is created and ultimately put on >>>> the web. >>>> ... I'm spending time on it but if someone else has a strong >>>> opinion on it, I'm happy. >>>> ... I'd like to hear other opinions - is it needed? Is it >>>> needed here? Is it needed urgently? >>>> >>>> mark_vickers: I think it's useful to have to shed light on some >>>> of the difficulties we're facing >>>> ... but I think people in the TT WG specifically are probably >>>> aware of this already. >>>> >>>> pal: Any other comments about this? >>>> ... No? OK. Any other new topics? >>>> >>>> Next call >>>> >>>> pal: Hearing none and having gone through the agenda, let's >>>> choose a date for our next meeting. >>>> ... I think 2pm is the best compromise. How about August 1st? >>>> >>>> <kaz> (that is August 2, 6am in Japan) >>>> >>>> pal: This timeslot was made to try to accommodate everyone >>>> including Sylvia in Australia, so I think we should give this >>>> timeslot another try. >>>> ... so let's try August 1st, 2pm Los Angeles time. >>>> ... Thank you every - look forward to speaking to you again in >>>> 2 weeks. >>>> >>>> <kaz> [ adjourned ] >>>> >>>> Summary of Action Items >>>> >>>> [NEW] ACTION: pal to post the Consensus Input to the Interest >>>> Group reflector [recorded in >>>> [15]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html#action01] >>>> >>>> [End of minutes] >>>> __________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Minutes formatted by David Booth's [16]scribe.perl version >>>> 1.138 ([17]CVS log) >>>> $Date: 2013-07-11 21:46:40 $ >>>> >>>> [16] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm >>>> [17] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
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