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Re: [profile] Profile spec title

From: Masahito Kawamori <masahito.kawamori@ties.itu.int>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 07:59:19 +0900
Message-ID: <CAD0ETOBmVc-MvzzEpCu0Kfbpah4BZhUNTwPMVVRbW_w6Bzv0SA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
Cc: "Vickers, Mark" <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com>, Jan Lindquist <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Hi Giuseppe

Thanks for the proposal. I prefer "profile" in the title, since we are
discussing a "profile" for TV (or Web-and-TV).  The first option seems
to capture the intention that a "profile" in W3C is in fact a
guideline (and not really a Specification).

I would hesitate to take the second option, because
-a) it seems redundant in the sense that the phrase "other web
technologies" already covers HTML5 (why do we need to single out
HTML5?);
-b) it seems to imply " HTML5 and other web technologies" need to be
profiled (i.e. is insufficient, as is) to provide  (generic)
"interactive video services" (but then, wasn't HTML5's "<video>" tag
for  (generic) "interactive video services", in the first place?).

Hence, all in all, the first seems better.

Cheers

Masahito



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
> Would one of the following title+subtitle address both needs?:
>
> "Web and TV profile"
> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based
> environment
>
> "Web and TV guidelines"
> A profile of HTML5 and other web technologies for interactive video services
>
> /g
>
> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:58:23 +0100, Jan Lindquist
> <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> The profile is not only about HTML5 but other W3c standards so it would be
>> misleading to have HTML5 in the title. In the spirit of the IG how about
>> "web and TV profile". The name of the profile is not as critical as knowing
>> the breadth of the areas it should cover. This profile may live for a while
>> and it in the context of the industry attempt to influence the work in W3C
>> with a clear list of specs that are being used and how they may be used. It
>> will become a reference point by other standard groups. By using the same
>> name as the IG it can help see the relationship.
>> Regards,
>> JanL
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vickers, Mark [mailto:Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com]
>>> Sent: den 7 februari 2012 15:24
>>> To: Giuseppe Pascale
>>> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG
>>> Subject: Re: [profile] Profile spec title
>>>
>>> How about "HTML5 Video Services Profile"?
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:26:40 +0100, Vickers, Mark
>>> <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> 5. Title: The goal for me is a profile of HTML5 for video
>>> services. There are two differences with "Web&TV Profile".
>>> >> - I want to include HTML5 in the title because this is
>>> HTML5-related
>>> >> and HTM5-centric
>>> >> - I don't like including "TV". This continues to cause
>>> confusion. It is clearer to describe an HTML5 profile for
>>> video services.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I don't have strong opinions on the title but I would note
>>> the following:
>>> > - A title should be short ( the subtitle explains a bit
>>> more what we are doing).
>>> > - I've tried to use the word "TV services" in the subtitle that is
>>> > hopefully a bit less confusing (or maybe not?). I have defined this
>>> > term as
>>> >
>>> > "For the purposes of this document a TV service is a
>>> commercial video service that may include elements of
>>> interactivity and that provides a coherent user experience.
>>> >
>>> > - while this profile is html5 based this is not only about
>>> html5. I'm not against highlighting the HTML5 centric
>>> approach but I wouldn't call this "an html5 profile".
>>> >
>>> > So in short: I'm fine with your comments but I cannot come
>>> up with a better title/subtitle. Suggestions are welcome.
>>> >
>>> > /g
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> See you on the call.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> mav
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> One note: the zakim bridge is overbooked.
>>> >>> So just in case we see that people have problem dialing
>>> in (in such
>>> >>> case please login on IRC and let us know) I set-up this
>>> Opera bridge.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> NOTE: ONLY TO BE USED IF WE SEE THAT ZAKIM DOESN'T WORK
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Phone bridge details:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Conference ID:            33909
>>> >>> Start Date and Time:      Monday 06.02.2012 17:00:00 CET/CEST
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bridge Numbers:
>>> >>> Norway                           +47 23 69 26 03
>>> >>> USA                                +1 800 201 4229 (Toll-Free)
>>> >>> Poland (Wroclaw)            +48 71 719 6099
>>> >>> Poland (Warsaw)             +48 22 262 0799
>>> >>> Japan                             +81 3 5435 8394
>>> >>> Russia                                +7 812 448 7876
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Conference Name:          tv profile
>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >>> Please contact SysAdmin at +47 23 69 33 60 for assistance.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> /g
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:15 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Here the call details for todays call
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Telco)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Schedule: Monday, 16:00Z (=8:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 17:00
>>> >>>> Europe, 01:00 Korea/Japan)
>>> >>>> Phone: US: +1 617 761 6200 or SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org Conference
>>> >>>> Code: 26632 IRC channel: #webtv
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> And here the Agenda for todays call:
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Agenda_Telco_6/2/2012)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> * Review of Charter
>>> >>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Charter)
>>> >>>> * Call schedule
>>> >>>> * TF tools (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile)
>>> >>>> * Process
>>> >>>> * Initial feedbacks on the draft
>>> >>>> (http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html)
>>> >>>> * AOB
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> /g
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>> the poll [1] is now closed and the winner is...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Monday, February 6, 2012 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM UTC
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> In this first call we will discuss the scope of the TV
>>> profile work, how do we want the group to be organized and
>>> timeline (if any).
>>> >>>>> If you have any other topic you want to add to the
>>> agenda let me know.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'll send around call details ASAP.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [1] http://doodle.com/h6rfnkrqyi3uinpi
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>> >>> TV & Connected Devices
>>> >>> Opera Software
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Giuseppe Pascale
>>> > TV & Connected Devices
>>> > Opera Software
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Giuseppe Pascale
> TV & Connected Devices
> Opera Software
>
Received on Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:03:30 UTC

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