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Re: [HOME_NETWORK_TF] Terminology section of the requirements document

From: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:23 +0200
To: "WRIGHT, STEVEN A" <sw3588@att.com>
Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org, "Clarke Stevens" <C.Stevens@cablelabs.com>
Message-ID: <op.v1qrglvz6ugkrk@giuseppep-x220>
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:59:24 +0200, WRIGHT, STEVEN A <sw3588@att.com>  
wrote:

> I would *hope* that this group's work is independent of address format  
> etc., but I still think it would be helpful to indicate that the  
> simplistic single legacy IPv4 subnet may not be a valid assumption,  
> precisely because there are folks that don't know anything else might  
> exist.  I would prefer to leverage an existing definition from another  
> SDO if possible but the text below should help set the direction viz:
>
>
> home network
> For the purposes of this document, the term "home network" refers to the  
> networking infrastructure that facilitates Internet Protocol  
> communications between devices within the home. This may range from a  
> single legacy IPv4 subnet to multiple IPv4 subnets and dual stack or  
> IPv6 environments and will typically (but not always) be connected to  
> the Internet.
>

given that nobody objected I merged your changes:
http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/index.php?title=HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Requirements&diff=1199&oldid=1190


>
> Another point I am concerned about is the assumption that the home  
> network is geographically restricted to a specific residential area.   
> Why is that assumption important? Are devices in my vacation home on my  
> home network? Does this imply some content licensing restriction?
>
>

We had the same discussion but didn't address this for lack of time. This  
was captured by some text in the "open issues" section
http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Requirements#Open_Issues

If you feel like proposing some more text for that section, feel free to  
do it.

/g



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giuseppe Pascale [mailto:giuseppep@opera.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:24 AM
> To: WRIGHT, STEVEN A
> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org; Clarke Stevens; Matt Hammond
> Subject: Re: [HOME_NETWORK_TF] Terminology section of the requirements  
> document
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:30:49 +0200, WRIGHT, STEVEN A <sw3588@att.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree Home Network should be defined.
>> I'm not sure the assumption of a single subnet is valid in a home
>> network.
> the definition says "typically" so basically do not exclude multiple
> subnets
>
>> It also seems likely that both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses may need to be
>> supported going forward.
>>
> right, but probably not relevant for our document.
> Are you fine with the current definition  [1] in the requirement document
> or would you suggest a rephrasing?
>
> /g
>
> [1]
> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Requirements#Terminology
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Steven Wright, MBA, PhD,
>> Sent from my ATT iPhone.
>> Rethink Possible.
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 2:01 AM, "Giuseppe Pascale" <giuseppep@opera.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:51:47 +0200, Matt Hammond
>>> <matt.hammond@rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds good.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agree with both. Merged into the requirement document.
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Requirements#Terminology
>>>
>>> /g
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:40:34 +0100, Clarke Stevens
>>>> <C.Stevens@cablelabs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it would be worthwhile to define it since the idea of a home
>>>>> network is a concept that has not been relevant in HTML to this
>>>>> point. I
>>>>> also think your definition is pretty good. We could also add  
>>>>> something
>>>>> along the lines of, "The home network can also be considered the  
>>>>> local
>>>>> area network (LAN) within the home."
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Clarke
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/29/11 4:29 PM, "Matt Hammond" <matt.hammond@rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just noticed that the terminology section includes "companion
>>>>>> device"
>>>>>> ... which can be dropped since it no longer features in the
>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it also be worth adding a definition for "home network"? I
>>>>>> appreciate this may be deceptively difficult to define in a way that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> can all agree on; and perhaps that may be reason enough to exclude
>>>>>> it and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> therefore deliberately keep it ambiguous. Here is an attempt though:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For the purposes of this document, the term "home network" refers
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> networking infrastructure that facilitates Internet Protocol
>>>>>> communications between devices within the home. This will typically
>>>>>> (but
>>>>>> not always) consist of a single IP subnet and will typically (but  
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> always) be connected to the Internet."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> | Matt Hammond
>>>>>> | Research Engineer, BBC R&D, Centre House, London
>>>>>> | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>> TV & Connected Devices
>>> Opera Software
>>>
>
>


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Giuseppe Pascale
TV & Connected Devices
Opera Software
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