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RE: [tech] Standardize Buttons For TV-Web Remotes?

From: Jan Lindquist <jan.lindquist@ericsson.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:23:31 +0200
To: Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@nexgenta.com>, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
CC: "public-web-and-tv@w3.org" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Message-ID: <82276AE38FD87A4C9CF6C820AC5276EA0D0834BCA8@ESESSCMS0362.eemea.ericsson.se>
Hello Mo,

The reference you make "No part may be reproduced..." is actually in other standards.

All ETSI specs say "No part may be reproduced except as authorized by written permission. The copyright and the foregoing restriction extend to reproduction in all media."

Same for 3GPP... "No part may be reproduced except as authorized by written permission. The copyright and the foregoing restriction extend to reproduction in all media."

Even ITU... "All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, by any means whatsoever, without the prior written permission of ITU."

It is perfectly fine to simply have a reference to the specifications and sections within. What one cannot do is simply copy/paste without permission. If W3C decides to use any part of DAE specification as bases I am pretty sure that OIPF would grant permission to use the material.

Hope this clarifies the concern.

Best Regards,
JanL 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: Giuseppe Pascale
> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org; Doug Schepers
> Subject: Re: [tech] Standardize Buttons For TV-Web Remotes?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Giuseppe Pascale 
> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think the issue you raised is a valid one and there was some work 
> > done in the groups I've been working with, in particular 
> OIPF[1] and 
> > HbbTV[2] (partially inherited from another spec)
> 
> I believe there's some good stuff in OIPF and HbbTV, but I have to say
> -- to get this out there (and hopefully resolved as a 
> potential issue sooner rather than later) -- that the terms 
> of use of the OIPF documents in particular are not especially 
> conducive to reuse, as it were.
> 
> i.e.,
> 
> "No part may be reproduced except as authorized by written permission.
> Any form of reproduction and/or distribution of these works 
> is prohibited."
> 
> I know I've avoided drawing from OIPF stuff because of this 
> in the context of Project Baird (http://projectbaird.com/) 
> because of this. A nonredistributable spec for Web stuff 
> could be likened to a teapot made of chocolate in some respects :)
> 
> I don't know if this is a theoretical rather than a practical 
> problem, but I'd certainly like to know for sure that things 
> such as the DAE can be drawn upon, especially by the W3C, 
> without fear of recriminations of some kind. Is there an easy 
> route to resolution maybe?
> 
> M.
> 
> --
> Mo McRoberts
> mo.mcroberts@nexgenta.com
> 
> 
> 
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