RE: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

Sorry I have so many balls in the air (not as if I’ll get sympathy from
crowd) Smile…

When is the meeting.

 

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
Sent: August 23, 2013 12:33 PM
To: Hoffman, Allen
Cc: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org Force
Subject: Re: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

 

problem is that you can use browsers on content that is on your hard drive.

 

and this is done more often  these days.   so use of a user agent doesn’t
make it web... 

 

 

Gregg

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Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison

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On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman@hq.dhs.gov>
wrote:





Gregg:

 

I think we do need to define it and thanks for a starter.

 

Can you include a plain language phrase somewhere like:

Not accessed via a user-agent or “browser”.  A definition as you propose
seems “accurate” but leads to more definitions and starts to become an
endless trail.  Sometimes accuracy can get in the way of communication even
though that sounds so backwards.

 

 

 

 

From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@ <http://trace.wisc.edu> trace.wisc.edu]

Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:59 AM
To:  <mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org> public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org Force
Subject: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

 

 

Someone asked me the definition of non-web.   and I went to WCAG2ICT to see
and we don't define it

 

we define document    

but not non-web though we use it everywhere

 

I don't know if we need to define it -- but if we do - (and is suspect we
might) here is one to look at -- and a heads up that this will be on todays
discussion at least.

 

 

 

non-web  (as used in WCAG2ICT)

 

            not obtained from a URI using HTTP, and not a resource that is
only used in the rendering or intended only to be rendered together with
something obtained from a URI using HTTP.  

 

 

 

 

RATIONALE

WCAG2ICT is about things that are not already covered by  WCAG

 

 WCAG applies to things obtained from a URI using HTTP plus any other
resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together
with it 

 

 

 

Gregg

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Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International -
<http://Raisingthefloor.org> http://Raisingthefloor.org
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