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About ISO 9241-171 (Re: WCAG2ICT Meeting minutes for 18-Sept-2011)

From: Loïc Martínez Normand <loic@fi.upm.es>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:44:00 +0200
Message-ID: <CAJpUyzm_q+50uAs1TVUU--=Wjbebwm+8Jatj7O8dP-BzuucZFg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mary Jo Mueller <maryjom@us.ibm.com>
Cc: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org
Dear all,

Sorry for not being very active in WCAG2ICT, but these days I cannot fit my
schedule to be able to better participate. In addition to M376 work I have
plenty of academic related issues due to the beginning of classes.

I've just read the minutes from yesterday's meeting and there is one
sentence that is very strange to me: "171 was not written as a standard
that could be enforced through regulation. It was designed as a collection
of good things to do."

To me, as one of the members of the ISO WG that drafted this standard, this
affirmation is wrong because ISO 9241-171 is written as a proper standard
and contains both requirements (shalls) and recommendations (shoulds) and
it was written with regulation in mind (in fact that is the reason that
forced us to have requirements).

The introduction of ISO 9241-171 even says (emphasis is mine): "... this
part of ISO 9241 addresses the increasing need to consider social and
*demands for ensuring accessibility..." and, as part of the user groups of
the Standard, it includes "buyers, who will reference this part of ISO 9241
during product *procurement*".

And the scope of 9241-171 says (emphasis is mine): "It is intended for use
by those responsible for the specification, design, development, evaluation
and *procurement* of software platforms and software applications".

So I think that we cannot use the idea of ISO 9241-171 not being
enforceable through legislation as a proper reply to the comments received
to the WCAG2ICT draft.

Best regards,

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Mary Jo Mueller <maryjom@us.ibm.com>wrote:

> Here's today's meeting minutes: *
> www.w3.org/2012/09/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html*<http://www.w3.org/2012/09/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html>
> Best regards,
> Mary Jo Mueller
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Loïc Martínez-Normand
DLSIIS. Facultad de Informática
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
Campus de Montegancedo
28660 Boadilla del Monte
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