RE: captions and subtitles

My suggested addition did not go out to the list.  Here it is:
I propose adding that:  "In the United States, DVD media often labels captions as subtitles for the Deaf and hearing impaired."

I will also mention that this feels to me like a conversation we should be trying to have via the wiki rather than email.


From: Hoffman, Allen [mailto:Allen.Hoffman@HQ.DHS.GOV]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:56 PM
To: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org
Subject: RE: captions and subtitles

I think Bruce's suggestion and Gregg's text is sufficient to address this topic for folks who may be coming at the WCAG fresh and working out what they are expected to do.  It is important context for knowing what we mean as it relates to those different IT environments.


From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:37 AM
To: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
Subject: captions and subtitles

In our meeting today it was pointed out that WCAG refers to Captions  while some countries use the work Subtitles for the same thing.

When this occurred with audio description and video description we added the following note to WCAG2ICT

"Note: WCAG 2.0 definition of Audio Description says that Audio Description is "Also called 'video description' and 'descriptive narration.'".

We were going to use a similar statement here but it is complicate by the fact that "subtitles" is also used to refer to subtext that only contains the words and does not contain speaker identification or important non-speech sounds.

So the following is proposed as a note instead - that would be included on the caption provisions in WCAG2ICT:

"Note: The WCAG 2.0 definition of Captions says " In some countries, captions are called subtitles".  To meet this SC however they would have to be the type of subtitles that provide "synchronized visual and/or text alternative<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#text-altdef> for both speech and non-speech audio information needed to understand the media content"





Gregg
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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering
University of Wisconsin-Madison

Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
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