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RE: revised proposed definition of "input error" - action item

From: Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:40:03 -0500
To: "John M Slatin" <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
Cc: <public-wcag-teamc@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF7081F16B.2E374B08-ON86257088.004FA26C-86257088.0050928A@us.ibm.com>

I think we have a little bit of redundancy with using both "expected" and
"required". How about "data format or values required by...".

I don't think we have consensus yet on using web site vs. delivery unit vs.
Web site so I've included both

So then we have:

input error: any information provided by the user that is not accepted by
the Web site/delivery unit. This includes:

1. information that is required by the Web site/delivery unit but omitted
by the user.
2. information that is provided by the user but that falls outside the data
format or values required by the Web site/delivery unit.

Do we even have to say "by anything"?

Could we just say

input error: any information provided by the user that is not accepted.
This includes:

1. information that is required but omitted by the user.
2. information that is provided by the user but that falls outside the
required data format or values.

Andi
andisnow@us.ibm.com
IBM Accessibility Center
(512) 838-9903, http://www.ibm.com/able
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Andi wroteproposed the following definition of input error:

<blockquote>
> input error: any information provided by the user that is not accepted

> by the Web site. This includes: 1. information that is required by the

> Web site but omitted by the user. 2. information that is provided by
> the user but that falls outside the expected format or
> content parameters required by the Web site.
</blockquote>

I like the definition, but agree with Makoto that we should say
"delivery unit" instead of "Web site."

Also, I'm not sure I understand what "content parameters" means. Would
"expected values" work instead? (Forgive me if this is something Team C
has gone 'round and 'round about...)

John



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Subject: Re: revised proposed definition of "input error" - action item



Andi's definition is most understandable for me. However, can we say
"Web site" in our document? Should we use "delivery unit" instead of
"Web site"?


- Makoto


On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:04:26 -0500
Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> wrote:

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> The bottom line is that an input error is whatever the code checking
> the input decides is an error. How about:
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> input error: any information provided by the user that is not accepted

> by the Web site. This includes: 1. information that is required by the

> Web site but omitted by the user. 2. information that is provided by
> the user but that falls outside the expected format or
> content parameters required by the Web site.
>
> Andi
> andisnow@us.ibm.com
> IBM Accessibility Center
> (512) 838-9903, http://www.ibm.com/able
> Internal Tie Line 678-9903, http://w3.austin.ibm.com/~snsinfo
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> Hi,
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> I think the definition of "input error" has to define both components
> of the phrase (1. it's an error, and 2. as a result of user effort),
> and so I like parts of both Michael's and Tim's suggestions.
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> Also, how about using terms less along the lines of programming
> terminology? For example, use "information" instead of "data". The
> user is entering information. It may get treated as data.
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> So I have a third suggestion:
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> input error: information entered or omitted by the user that falls
> outside the programmed scope.
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> Thanks,
> Sofia
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