RE: Propose removing one HTML techniques for 2.4.5

Older screen readers were inconsistent in whether they supported name or
title attributes for the frame element. (If I remember right,
WIndow-Eyes used title and JAWS used name.)
 
JAWS, Window-Eyes, and HPR have all supported title for some time now.
(But I think there's a legacy keystroke in JAWS that gives you the name,
not the title-- or maybe it's a Windows keystroke: F6).
 
John
 

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[mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg
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	Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:43 am
	To: 'Becky Gibson'; public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
	Subject: RE: Propose removing one HTML techniques for 2.4.5
	
	

	How about removing "meaningful" or change it to "natural
language"  but keep the technique (unless you already have one for a
name on a frame). 

	 

	
	Gregg
	
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[mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Becky Gibson
		Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:27 AM
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		Subject: Propose removing one HTML techniques for 2.4.5

		
		I didn't see discussion of this in the minutes from the
February 14, teamb call.  I propose that we remove the following
technique from 2.4.5 since I don't think it is testable.   
		
		Providing a meaningful name to identify frames
<http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Providing_a_meaningful_
name_to_identify_frames> . [2]. This technique talks about adding a name
attribute to frames for technologies which do not support the title
attribute.  Is this really an issue? Are there assistive technologies
which do not support title on frame and if so, do they even support the
name attribute?   
		
		
		[1]
http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Providing_a_meaningful_n
ame_to_identify_frames 
		
		Becky Gibson
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