RE: More updated HTML techniques for SC 1.3.1

Thanks for the feedback.

I've updated the Description section of these two techniques (caption
and summary) to try to convey more clearly that caption and summary are
both optional *and* that there is an option to use them together (or
not).

I haven't deleted the parenthetical (but not in data tables) from the
titles of the techniques, pending discussion on the Team B call today.
I don't have a problem with doing so.

JOhn 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:54 pm
To: 'Loretta Guarino Reid'; John M Slatin
Cc: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
Subject: RE: More updated HTML techniques for SC 1.3.1

The way to do optional is to say

If you do this, it is done this way. 

If it was a may it would be
If you do this, do it this way.  But these are techniques not options in
required ways.  



Gregg

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Loretta Guarino
Reid
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:34 PM
To: John M Slatin
Cc: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
Subject: RE: More updated HTML techniques for SC 1.3.1


Are Captions required for data tables? When I read the technique, I come
away with the impression that they are. I'm not quite sure how we write
the test procedure for something that is optional, unless we can capture
how to determine when it is needed.

The summary technique talks about what the WCAG WG recommends. It should
probably just make the recommendation directly. (This will probably
result in passive language.)

Do we need (not in layout tables) in the titles of all these techniques?
It certainly belongs in the description, but I find it makes the
technique title hard to read.

Everything else looks ok to my untrained eye.


Loretta Guarino Reid
lguarino@adobe.com
Adobe Systems, Acrobat Engineering 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org [mailto:public- 
> wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John M Slatin
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:02 AM
> To: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
> Subject: More updated HTML techniques for SC 1.3.1
> 
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> Over the weekend I updated the following techniques to address 
> suggestions from the Working Group:
> 
> - Using table, tr, and td  elements for tabular information[1]
> - Using caption elements to identify data tables (but not layout
> tables) [2]
> 
> 
> Changes are described in the Status section of each technique.
> 
> The tabular infomration technique [1] has now been combined with 
> content from Using the th element to identify column and row headers 
> in data tables (but not in layout tables) [3], as suggested by the WG,

> so I suggest deleting [3].
> 
> Both [1] and [2] should be retitled (suggestions in the Status 
> section).
> 
> Today I'll write a technique about Using the table element's summary 
> attribute to describe the organization of a data table.
> Will post to the
> list when it's done.
> 
> Thanks to Loretta and Yvette for additional updates!
> 
> John
> [1]http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Using_t
> able%2C_tr%2C_
> and_td_elements_for_tabular_information
> [2]
> http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Using_capt
> ion_elements_t
> o_identify_data_tables_%28but_not_layout_tables%29
> [3]http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Using_t
> h_elements_to_
> identify_column_and_row_headers_in_data_tables_%28but_not_
> in_layout_tabl
> es%29
> "Good design is accessible design."
> John Slatin, Ph.D.
> Director, Accessibility Institute
> University of Texas at Austin
> FAC 248C
> 1 University Station G9600
> Austin, TX 78712
> ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524
> email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu
> web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/
> 
> 
> 
>

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