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Re: [important] group input on Easy-to-Read symposium

From: Simon Harper <simon.harper@manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:21:08 +0000
Message-ID: <50ADEE84.9060609@manchester.ac.uk>
To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
CC: RDWG <public-wai-rd@w3.org>, Klaus Miesenberger <Klaus.Miesenberger@jku.at>, Andrea Petz <Andrea.Petz@jku.at>, Kerstin Matausch <Kerstin.Matausch@ki-i.at>
Hi Shadi,

I agree with point 3 - to this end I've been doing some experiments that
I hope the group could help me with. I've been using Google Docs for
writing reports - and then using the File> Download as > Web page.

This seems to produce valid HTML Documents with the correct headings and
such. I run through tidy to add doctype - then through the validator
(which gets valid HTML), Then through WAVE which shows 1 empty H3 (my
fault).

I wonder if others could try this method for producing good documents so
we can use this procedure in the next symposium.

This is also a good techniques for the note too.

cheers

 

Si.


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Simon Harper
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University of Manchester (UK)
Web Ergonomics Lab - Information Management Group
http://wel.cs.manchester.ac.uk

On 22/11/2012 09:02, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> On 22.11.2012 09:14, Simon Harper wrote:
>> Hi Shadi,
>> let me take these in order:
>> 1) looks good.
>
> Thanks for reviewing.
>
>
>> 2) I (and most of the group - all except Kerstin) want the normal
>> system / I support this - if we have to limit attendees then we have
>> no choice.
>
> For future discussion: I think we should keep a smaller group but work
> more on recruiting a good crowd through advance notices etc. Shawn and
> Dave did a terrific job, and Klaus, Andrea, and Kerstin are doing that
> too. We should keep this up for future symposia as well.
>
>
>> 3) I think this is an author issue, Klaus can we send the ones with
>> coding errors back - this is how it's normally done at conferences as
>> authors are the stakeholders with more invested than anyone else and
>> so are more likely to do the work - and it is the editors
>> responsibility to get them changed - Klaus this is how it works at
>> ICCHP right?
>
> Frankly, the issue is requesting authors, many of who are non-techies,
> to code HTML. Andrea has been cleaning up all the pages but for the
> future we need to improve our submission format and procedures to make
> these symposia (1) more inviting and (2) sustainable with less effort.
>
>
>> 4) I think the chairs seem to have everything in hand and we have
>> meeting next week only for these comments too.
>
> Yes, I'm totally confident. But I'm sure they welcome any additional
> input from the group as well.
>
> Best,
>   Shadi
>
>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Si.
>>
>> PS I check my email at 08:00 and 17:00 GMT. If you require a faster
>> response please include the word 'fast' in the subject line.
>>
>> =======================
>> Simon Harper
>> http://simon.harper.name/about/card/
>>
>> University of Manchester (UK)
>> Web Ergonomics Lab - Information Management Group
>> http://wel.cs.manchester.ac.uk
>>
>> On 21/11/12 08:02, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>>> Dear Group and E2R symposium co-chairs,
>>>
>>> In lieu of this week's meeting I'd like to get your input via
>>> mail.
>>>
>>> #1. Please review the updated symposium page and let us know any
>>> thoughts you may have -- the symposium co-chairs are working on
>>> the agenda section but otherwise it should be ready: -
>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/easy-to-read/>
>>>
>>>
>>> #2. Please share your thoughts on teleconferencing system -- The
>>> setup for TC4R worked quite well but it is limited to ~50
>>> participants (we had 40+ participants). There are benefits to allow
>>> more participants but also drawbacks (more noise and chatter, less
>>> focused discussion, more overhead to manage, ...), most
>>> importantly, the other system we tried didn't have the same level
>>> of quality -- we need to decide!
>>>
>>>
>>> #3. Some of the listed papers have character-encoding bugs that
>>> crept in during the QA process (how ironic!) -- any volunteers to
>>> help clean up the HTML in some of these papers?
>>>
>>>
>>> #4. Please share any other thoughts about potential questions to
>>> raise, discussion to have, or other suggestions you may have for
>>> the co-chairs to consider for the symposium -- they are preparing
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Shadi
>>>
>>
>
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