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Fwd: Re: metrics note - comments

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:57:35 +0200
To: "public-wai-rd.w3.org" <public-wai-rd@w3.org>
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forwarded as requested, for archival purposes.

cheers

------- Forwarded message -------
From: "Shadi Abou-Zahra" <shadi@w3.org>
To: "Charles McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com>
Cc: "giorgio brajnik" <brajnik@uniud.it>, "Markel Vigo"
<markel.vigo@manchester.ac.uk>, "Joshue O Connor"
<joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, "Simon Harper" <Simon.Harper@manchester.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: metrics note - comments
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:44:57 +0200

Hi Charles,

Thank you for filling the questionnaire and for your comments. I'm
CC'ing the editors but would you mind archiving your comments in
addition to that? You can copy and paste them into your questionnaire
response or send them to the group mailing list.

Thanks,
         Shadi


On 23.5.2012 12:08, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> These are all editorial (and I suspect mostly redundant, but hey...)
>
> 1.1 para 1
> s/A metrics/A metric/
>
> para 4 (counting real paras only)
> s/In analogy/Analagous/
>
> para 5
> s/metrics relies on their low cost/metrics is their low cost/
> s/entail/mean/
>
> para 6
> s/in addition to reliance on testing tools/due to their reliance on
> automated testing tools/
>
> 1.2 list, bullet 1
> s/precisely know/better understand/
>
> bullet 4 HUH?!?
>
> 2 (intro para)
> s/that adopting a given metric yields/inherent in the use of a given
> metric/
>
> 2.1 para 1
> s/accessibility is use/accessibility-in-use/
> (you may want to italicise this as a term of art introduced in this  
> paper).
> s/and it can be/which can be/
>
> para 3
> s/simple to be applicable/easy to apply/ (or easy to determine?)
> The last sentence should drop one of "truly" or "actually"
>
> 2.2 para 2
> s/they are inconsistent,// (unreliable metrics are inconsistent by
> definition - you're explaining what problem that produces)
>
> para 3
> s/thereby both confidently/thereby confidently/
> s/byproduct/by-product/
>
> 2.4 last sentence
> s/then also large changes/large changes/
>
> 2.5 first sentence
> s/data that is used/data, and the algorithm that is used/
> s/ and the algorithm which it is based on//
>
> in parenthesis
> s/have therefore to be/must be/
>
> after parenthesis
> s/high bandwidth to crawl large websites, large storage capacity or
> increased computing power/high bandwidth, large storage capacity or
> increased computing power, e.g. to analyze large websites/
>
> 3.1 para 1
> s/panel of experts obtaining/panel of experts, obtaining/
> s/to obtain/but to obtain/
> s/adjustment though/adjustment/
>
> para 2
> s/relies on reliability/depends on the reliability/
> s/Raised during the webinar was the point/During the webinar it was  
> noted/
>
> 3.2
> s/one critical issue so that the spreading of usage of metrics gains
> momentum and their adoption is fostered/critical for their broad  
> adoption./
>
> last sentence
> s/appropriate/valuable/
> (probably don't capitalise Quality Assurance here)
>
> 3.3
> s/This can be useful, for instance, in those websites that massively
> rely on templates/This is useful for websites that are substantially
> built on templates/
> s/In this case, a vast majority of the pages follow a determined
> template.//
> s/keeps the same/stays the same/
> s/are the sites of specific geographical locations/the sites of specific
> geographical locations are/
>
> 3.4
> s/distance of/distance from/
> s/claim for/require/
> s/[see WCAG SC 4.1.1 Parsing/[see WCAG SC 4.1.1 Parsing]/
>
> 3.5 para 1
> s/considering/by considering/
>
> para 2
> s/that enables to manage a number of checkpoints that, depending on the
> contextual requirements, have to be simultaneously met or when the
> fulfillment of just one of them suffices/that of several checkpoints of
> which, depending on the context, a subset must be met/
> s/Such method/Such a method/
>
> 3.6
> s/not to only considers/not only considers/
> s/the accessing device/the device/
> s/but it also focuses/but also focuses/
> s/in a time where user experience is becoming so salient and prevalent
> and think/and thinking of/
> take the parenthesis away from around 'and constantly changes'
>
> 3.7 para 1
> s/papers where/papers/
> s/end user that will make decisions/end user who will make decisions/
> s/an specific end user of metrics or/a specific end user of metrics, or/
> s/some other can potentially applied in such domain/some others could be
> applied in this way/
> s/again, there are potential/there are also potential/
> there is some thing missing about "applying it" - applying what to what?
> - in that sentence.
>
> para 2
> s/secondly/second/
> s/accessibility metrics researches/accessibility metrics researchers/
> s/risk made on the base of wrong values of metrics/risks incurred by
> having incorrect values for metrics/
> s/closely related our last question/closely related to our last question/
>
> 4 (intro) para 1
> s/this areas are uncovered in section 4.1/these areas are uncovered in
> section 4.1/
>
> 4.1
> s/No matter how sensitive or adequate a metric is/It does not matter how
> sensitive or adequate a metric is/
>
> 4.4.3 last bullet
> s/The role that metric complexity plays on its adoption/The role that
> the complexity of a metric plays in its adoption/
>
> 5 (header)
> s/Metrics Benchmarking/Benchmarking Metrics/
>
> intro bullet 2
> s/(The metrics highly depend on the tester)/(important in cases where
> the results for given metrics depend significantly on the tester)/
>
> 5.1 para 2
> s/on metric validity and , in particular, on metric reliability/metric
> validity and reliability/
> s/lowly credible/not very credible/
>
> 5.2
> s/challenge on/challenge for/
> s/from user disability group membership/from the fact that a particular
> user is identified as having a particular disability/
>
> bullet 2
> s/Quantifying guidelines relevance/Quantifying the relevance of  
> guidelines/
>
>
> 5.3 para 1
> s/Web pages these days are not an exception as dynamic content causes
> updates in Web documents. Web pages are alive and are not inert anymore
> as these/Modern web pages are dynamic, changing their content over time.
> These/
> s/but to some other factors/but can also be due to factors/
> s/mark-up can give little hints/mark-up gives few hints/
>
> para 2
> s/should be retrieved/should it be retrieved/
> s/An average of all instances should be cumulated/Should an average of
> all instances be calculated/
>
> 6 para 1
> s/ in a blindfolded way //
>
> para 2
> s/whereas/and/
> s/at stakes/questionable/
>
> para 3
> s/in purely compliance terms/in pure compliance terms/
> s/role on the user experience/role in determining the quality of user
> experience/
>
> (and that's all. I'm sorry I missed the event...)
>
> cheers
>


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