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Re: [urgent] input from WAI Coordination Group on mobile accessibility pre-cal

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:00:57 +0100
Message-ID: <4F59FF09.9080303@w3.org>
To: sharper@cs.man.ac.uk
CC: Yeliz Yesilada <yyeliz@metu.edu.tr>, Peter Thiessen <thiessenp@gmail.com>, Simon Harper <simon.harper@manchester.ac.uk>, RDWG <public-wai-rd@w3.org>
Hi Simon, All,

Comments below:


On 9.3.2012 10:01, sharper@cs.man.ac.uk wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> ok so my comments on the proposed changes are these:
>
> I'm OK with the first paragrpah changes apart from 'many accessibility
> challenges for people with disabilities'. First it is obvious we have
> focus on accessibility as we are part of WAI - but this text supposes that
> it is only disability - IMO this is too narrow a definition of
> accessibility which should also include situational impairment, low
> income, developing regions etc. So I would disagree with including this
> text.

I don't necessarily agree that it is obvious. People with disabilities 
are frequently left out from discussions and development. For example 
our previous symposium did not have any presenters from organizations 
representing people with disabilities, yet here we were talking about 
optimal metrics and ways to measure accessibility...


> Second part:
>
> We invite extended research abstracts of no more than 1000 words from
> research, industry, people with disabilities, and others with interest in
> mobile web accessibility.
>
> Adding 'people with disabilities,' is just plain wrong - it is both
> patronising and trite; it suggests we think people with disabilities occur
> in a set by themselves and not as part of the R&D community - this is
> wrong and discriminatory!

I appreciate your opinion but respectfully disagree with your blanket 
statement. We *are* talking about accessibility solutions for people 
with disabilities (even if they relate to and benefit others) and we 
should be respectful enough to invite end-users to the discussion IMHO.


> Third part:
> suggests 'Accepted papers will be published as part of the proceedings.
> Accepted papers may also be referenced or included (in full or in part) in
> attributable form in the ensuing publication, which will be published
> using the W3C Document License.'
>
> We must as a group decide this - I think the wording has some merit but
> with a change thus:
>
> Accepted papers will be published under the  W3C Document License as part
> of the proceedings. Accepted papers will be referenced (and may be
> included in full or in part) in attributable form in the ensuing
> publication which will be published using the W3C Document License.
>
> The license is at:
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231

Yes, we must discuss this as a group. I actually only left it in so that 
it does not get lost but it is not up for discussion now.


> So these are my thoughts.

I'm not sure how to proceed. I apologize for this late feedback from the 
Coordination Group but, Simon, maybe you and I should find better ways 
for synchronizing both groups...

Best,
   Shadi


> Cheers
> Si
>
>
>> Dear Symposium Chairs and RDWG,
>>
>> Last night we received input from the WAI Coordination Group on the
>> mobile accessibility pre-call, most notably to point out that the
>> current text does not adequately acknowledge existing work that is
>> already happening on mobile accessibility (inside and outside W3C).
>>
>> To save discussion time, I have put some suggested changes in the
>> "discussion" tab of the wiki for your review and approval:
>>    -<http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Talk:Mobile_Pre_CFP>
>>
>> Please feel free to make edits directly to that page, but please do
>> reply to this thread if you do so. Please also confirm your approval
>> with these changes or if you prefer to discuss them by phone.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>     Shadi
>>
>> --
>> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
>> Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
>> Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
>> Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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