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Re: suggestion for "Copyright Policy" section

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:26 +0100
Message-ID: <4F468B26.8030805@w3.org>
To: Christos Kouroupetroglou <chris.kourou@gmail.com>
CC: public-wai-rd@w3.org
Hi Christos,

Just to clarify: I did not say anywhere not to *reference* the papers 
but rather not to commit ourselves to *copy* them into the WG Note. 
Editors can choose to if they find appropriate for a given symposium.

Best,
   Shadi


On 23.2.2012 16:11, Christos Kouroupetroglou wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I understand that accepting papers without publishing them in a
> citable form is not an option and lowers significantly the prestige
> and the incentives for attracting submissions in the future. I think
> that Markel suggested the best solution up to now.
>
> Let's have two separate documents. The first being the proceedings
> where all papers are included in a citable form (and we also have a
> short presentation/introduction of them) and another being the W3C
> note which provides the conclusions and the further research
> suggestions of the editors and the working group in general.
>
> In that sense, I understand Shadi's opinion that we shouldn't commit
> in referencing all papers from the symposium in the W3C note, since
> not all of them may contribute significantly in the notes conclusions
> and discussion. However, what will a research note without many
> references to the symposium say? That we did the whole thing for
> nothing. So the more the W3C note references to the proceedings the
> more we show the importance of the event and the papers accepted.
> Otherwise, we are organising a set of events without showing any
> respect to the contributions and without actually taking them under
> account seriously. Would you think that this is a good strategy for
> attracting papers in the future? My point is that we shouldn't commit
> in referencing all papers in the note (just for the shake of being
> nice to authors), but we should try to do so in order to justify the
> sympoium's existence.
>
> As for the quality of the papers and the symposium in general, I think
> that only time and references gathered from other authors will tell.
>
> Last but not least I like more the second option of referencing to
> papers of the symposium. Seeing it as a potential author this is a bit
> more "formal" that the other and ties up better with the 2 documents
> format.
>
> [2] A Niezio, M Eibegger, M. Goodwin, M Snaprud, Towards a score
> function for WCAG 2.0 benchmarking, 2011. In Proc. of Website
> Accessibility Metrics, Online Symposium 5 December 2011, Vigo,
> Brajnik, O'Connor (eds.), http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics (and
> link to http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/paper11)
>
> Regards,
> Christos Kouroupetroglou
>
> 2012/2/23 Yehya Mohamad<yehya.mohamad@fit.fraunhofer.de>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Am 23.02.2012 09:46, schrieb Shadi Abou-Zahra:
>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> On 23.2.2012 09:40, Joshue O Connor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm a little confused about what the issue is. Quality seems to be a
>>>> part of it but also it seems to be how we present the papers that we do
>>>> accept? I agree with Simon that if we accept a paper, we accept a paper.
>>>> So it should be a full citizen, and referenced in the normal manner.
>>>>
>>>> This is an incentive for people to submit.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think publication is being challenged. I think we all agree that
>>> all accepted papers will be published as part of the proceedings (in a
>>> referencable form and with a permanent URI).
>>>
>>> The question is if we then also need to always include these same papers
>>> as appendices to the consolidated WG Note.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Shadi, usually papers are published in the proceedings of a
>> conference, any publications beyond that try to select the most interesting
>> and promising papers/aspects of the conference to achieve deeper impact. In
>> this sense I would present it as -  all papers accepted are published in the
>> proceedings and the best papers will be presented in the notes-!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Yehya
>>
>>
>> Dr. Yehya Mohamad
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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