- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:26 +0100
- To: Christos Kouroupetroglou <chris.kourou@gmail.com>
- CC: public-wai-rd@w3.org
Hi Christos, Just to clarify: I did not say anywhere not to *reference* the papers but rather not to commit ourselves to *copy* them into the WG Note. Editors can choose to if they find appropriate for a given symposium. Best, Shadi On 23.2.2012 16:11, Christos Kouroupetroglou wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I understand that accepting papers without publishing them in a > citable form is not an option and lowers significantly the prestige > and the incentives for attracting submissions in the future. I think > that Markel suggested the best solution up to now. > > Let's have two separate documents. The first being the proceedings > where all papers are included in a citable form (and we also have a > short presentation/introduction of them) and another being the W3C > note which provides the conclusions and the further research > suggestions of the editors and the working group in general. > > In that sense, I understand Shadi's opinion that we shouldn't commit > in referencing all papers from the symposium in the W3C note, since > not all of them may contribute significantly in the notes conclusions > and discussion. However, what will a research note without many > references to the symposium say? That we did the whole thing for > nothing. So the more the W3C note references to the proceedings the > more we show the importance of the event and the papers accepted. > Otherwise, we are organising a set of events without showing any > respect to the contributions and without actually taking them under > account seriously. Would you think that this is a good strategy for > attracting papers in the future? My point is that we shouldn't commit > in referencing all papers in the note (just for the shake of being > nice to authors), but we should try to do so in order to justify the > sympoium's existence. > > As for the quality of the papers and the symposium in general, I think > that only time and references gathered from other authors will tell. > > Last but not least I like more the second option of referencing to > papers of the symposium. Seeing it as a potential author this is a bit > more "formal" that the other and ties up better with the 2 documents > format. > > [2] A Niezio, M Eibegger, M. Goodwin, M Snaprud, Towards a score > function for WCAG 2.0 benchmarking, 2011. In Proc. of Website > Accessibility Metrics, Online Symposium 5 December 2011, Vigo, > Brajnik, O'Connor (eds.), http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics (and > link to http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/paper11) > > Regards, > Christos Kouroupetroglou > > 2012/2/23 Yehya Mohamad<yehya.mohamad@fit.fraunhofer.de>: >> Hi all, >> >> >> Am 23.02.2012 09:46, schrieb Shadi Abou-Zahra: >> >>> Hi Josh, >>> >>> On 23.2.2012 09:40, Joshue O Connor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm a little confused about what the issue is. Quality seems to be a >>>> part of it but also it seems to be how we present the papers that we do >>>> accept? I agree with Simon that if we accept a paper, we accept a paper. >>>> So it should be a full citizen, and referenced in the normal manner. >>>> >>>> This is an incentive for people to submit. >>> >>> >>> I don't think publication is being challenged. I think we all agree that >>> all accepted papers will be published as part of the proceedings (in a >>> referencable form and with a permanent URI). >>> >>> The question is if we then also need to always include these same papers >>> as appendices to the consolidated WG Note. >>> >>> >> >> I agree with Shadi, usually papers are published in the proceedings of a >> conference, any publications beyond that try to select the most interesting >> and promising papers/aspects of the conference to achieve deeper impact. In >> this sense I would present it as - all papers accepted are published in the >> proceedings and the best papers will be presented in the notes-! >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Yehya >> >> >> Dr. Yehya Mohamad >> >> mailto:mohamad@fit.fraunhofer.de http://www.fit.fraunhofer.de/ >> >> Fraunhofer-Institut für Angewandte Informationstechnik (FIT.UCC) >> [Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Information Technology (FIT.UCC)] >> Schloss Birlinghoven, D53757 Sankt Augustin (Germany) >> Tel: +49-2241-142846 Fax: +49-02241-1442846 >> http://imergo.com >> >> >> > > -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG) Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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