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Re: [input requested] 3.4.2 Step 4.b: Use WCAG 2.0 Techniques Where Possible (Optional)

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:36:21 +0200
Message-ID: <5051E155.4010809@w3.org>
To: RichardWarren <richard.warren@userite.com>
CC: Eval TF <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Hi Richard,

Thank you for this feedback. I hope this is better addressed in the 
latest draft circulated in a separate thread with Gregg and WCAG WG.

Best,
   Shadi


On 13.9.2012 02:08, RichardWarren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Section 3.4.2 (step 4b) is part of the actual evaluation (testing) of
> the selected pages/sections of the web-site.
> In effect we are saying that if the designer has used "applicable WCAG
> 2.0 techniques" *correctly* then that is sufficient for the evaluator to
> say that the particular success criteria has been met. For example; if
> all the <img> elements contain an alt="value" attribute with appropriate
> values, (G94) - then, that in itself, is sufficient to claim conformance
> with Guideline 1.1 for those images. The evaluator does not need to do
> any further testing on this issue. Bear in mind that if a technique is
> not used it does not automatically mean a failure - there may be another
> method which would need to be tested to see if it works in all
> situations. The important thing is that, *if* the appropriate WCAG
> techniques has been correctly applied, then there is no need for further
> testing because WCAG has already done all the required testing.
>
> I suggest that the title of the proposed rewrite be made clearer as
> given below.
>
> Current text:-
> 3.4.2 Step 4.b: Use WCAG 2.0 Techniques Where Possible (Optional)
> Methodology Requirement 4.b: Where possible, use applicable WCAG 2.0
> techniques to demonstrate successes and failures in meeting the WCAG 2.0
> Success Criteria relevant per 3.1.3 Step 1.c: Define the Conformance
> Target.
>
> Proposed text:-
> 3.4.2 Step 4.b: Identify the use of appropriate WCAG 2.0 Techniques
> Where Possible (Optional)
> Methodology Requirement 4.b: Where possible, identify the correct use of
> applicable WCAG 2.0 techniques to demonstrate successes in meeting the
> WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria relevant per 3.1.3 Step 1.c: Define the
> Conformance Target.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:22 PM
> To: WCAG WG ; Eval TF
> Subject: [input requested] 3.4.2 Step 4.b: Use WCAG 2.0 Techniques Where
> Possible (Optional)
>
> Dear WCAG WG, Eval TF,
>
> We currently have one comment open for discussion, on section 3.4.2 Step
> 4.b: Use WCAG 2.0 Techniques Where Possible (Optional).
>
> Attached are suggested edits by Gregg Vanderheiden (Document1.doc) and
> the proposed rewrite in response (Step4b_SAZ2.odc) which also contains
> important discussion in the commentary.
>
> Your input on this is needed. Basically we need to be accurate and avoid
> potential misunderstandings. On the other hand, we also need to offer
> real guidance that is also easy to understand and follow.
>
> Regards,
>    Shadi
>

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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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