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Re: AW: proposed definition for "website"

From: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:21:59 +0100
Message-Id: <AF350A5F-C463-449D-B37A-ABF3C72C2772@gmail.com>
Cc: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@googlemail.com>, Eval TF <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Hi Shadi,

yes and the intention was not to forbid something, just to not invite.

Best

Kerstin

Via Mobile

Am 03.02.2012 um 16:57 schrieb Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>:

> Hi Kerstin,
> 
> I think this means that our conformance claims/reports need to be very clear, rather than trying to forbid someone from doing something...
> 
> Best,
>  Shadi
> 
> 
> On 3.2.2012 14:12, Kerstin Probiesch wrote:
>> Hi Shadi,
>> 
>> thanks for this definition.
>> 
>> Just one comment: "may claim conformance to WCAG".
>> 
>> Probably its just a language issue. Wouldn't that mean, that a website owner
>> could claim conformance for example in the case that evaluators are testing
>> with our methodology and evaluators testing with another methodology based
>> upon a few pages do the rest? I think this we should avoid, cause users
>> might think that all was tested according to our methodology.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Kerstin
>> 
>>> -----Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Vivienne CONWAY [mailto:v.conway@ecu.edu.au]
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 13:55
>>> An: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Eval TF
>>> Betreff: RE: proposed definition for "website"
>>> 
>>> HI Shadi
>>> I think you've done marvellously (is that a word?) and really captured
>>> the essence of our discussion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons), MACS CT
>>> PhD Candidate&  Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A.
>>> Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd.
>>> v.conway@ecu.edu.au
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>>> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra [shadi@w3.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 8:38 PM
>>> To: Eval TF
>>> Subject: proposed definition for "website"
>>> 
>>> Dear Eval TF,
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I took an action to propose a new definition for "website"
>>> *in
>>> the context of this document*. Currently the document says:
>>> 
>>> [[ http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/methodology/#website
>>> Website - A coherent collection of one or more related web pages that
>>> together provide common use or functionality. It includes static web
>>> pages, dynamically generated web pages, and web applications.
>>> ]]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I propose we add the following text to this definition:
>>> 
>>> [[
>>> Websites are generally self-enclosed entities with key resources such
>>> as
>>> a homepage, login page, or other entry pages; help pages; sitemap; and
>>> contact information. Web pages within a website typically have a common
>>> design ("look and feel") and navigational structures. Examples of
>>> websites in the context of this document include:
>>>   - Self-enclosed web appearances owned or provided by organizations;
>>>   - Self-enclosed sections of websites (sometimes referred to as
>>> "sub-sites"), such as these of departments within organizations;
>>>   - Self-enclosed web applications and other web-based products.
>>> 
>>> Arbitrary selections of individual web pages, especially those that do
>>> not include complete processes, are not regarded as websites.
>>> 
>>> Note: Selections of individual web pages that are not regarded as
>>> websites may claim conformance to WCAG, but the evaluation of such
>>> collections is outside the scope of this methodology.
>>> ]]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to your reactions!
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>>    Shadi
>>> 
>>> --
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>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
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> Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
> Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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